Batman vs. Nightwing and Red Hood

Originally posted by Zack M
It's true. Azrael recently took on Batwoman and Cassandra simultaneously. He's also easily beaten combat scenarios (think Danger Room) that Batman has a hard time beating.

when did az take on both of them?

lol cass isn't as skilled as post crisis version of her

Originally posted by Zack M
It's true. Azrael recently took on Batwoman and Cassandra simultaneously. He's also easily beaten combat scenarios (think Danger Room) that Batman has a hard time beating.

Okay. You are the Azrael expert. I'm not quite as high on him. But feats are feats.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Okay. You are the Azrael expert. I'm not quite as high on him. But feats are feats.

👆 And Batman said he doesn't think he can beat Cassandra straight up.

I also forgot to mention that Azrael did defeat Bane. He has this one touch attack that makes them see things.

which issue the fight with bat/cass and az happened in lol?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
which issue the fight with bat/cass and az happened in lol?

Detective Comics 956

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
when did az take on both of them?

lol cass isn't as skilled as post crisis version of her

They depowered Cass?

That sucks.

Cass owned Nightwing. They didn't depower her.

Originally posted by cdtm
They depowered Cass?

That sucks.

No, I mean Cass abilities are different from PC. and she's not as skilled as she was in PC

How so?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hand-to-hand only.

Can Bruce take them both?

As long as he's still individually better than any Robin or fomer-Robin, I have no problem thinking the team can win.

Post crisis Cassandra Cain reads body language like an actual language, recognizing a thousand or so subtle body twitches that allows her to telegraph her opponents' moves.

N52 Cass body reading is different and now allows her to regonize weak points in a person by just a glance

How is she less skilled, though?

don't ask me a stupid question. i already told you, not my fault if you wanna pretend to be dumb

How?

bruce takes this

lol. Bruce already lost to Dick one on one. Adding Jason is a terrible idea.

Originally posted by Zack M
Bruce already lost to Dick one on one.

Just goes to show how silly DC is getting.

just finished reading it. i dont see az taking on both of them like you claimed he did

Originally posted by Zack M
It's true. Azrael recently took on Batwoman and Cassandra simultaneously. He's also easily beaten combat scenarios (think Danger Room) that Batman has a hard time beating.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
lol cass isn't as skilled as post crisis version of her

Anyhow, as to the actual fighters involved, my opinion remains unchanged.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just goes to show how silly DC is getting.

Wayne pulled punches. He never goes all out against his boys.