Mexican presidential candidate calls for people to flee the country

Started by Surtur4 pages

I have no problem accepting that the article is flawed. But if this quote:

"leave their towns and find a life in the United States."

If that quote is correct, I fail to see the argument.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
😂

I'm not writing a book about it. Just something I think would better clarify his position. He's not encouraging a mass exodus and telling people to leave Mexico. Fly's article is foaming at the mouth retarded for no reason.

Consider the source

More like consider the form of the opposition to it.

Aka Fascist Lying Leftism.

Ya know...people like Robbie.

Ah, **** it. I'm tired. I was going to translate the entire article from El Universal and the entirety of Obrador's speech in the video clip, but this will suffice:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/25/blog-posting/mexico-presidential-candidate-call-immigration/

A hoax is making the rounds on Facebook that Mexico’s leading presidential candidate is calling for a massive surge of immigration to the United States. That’s not true.

"Mexico’s next president calls for an invasion of the U.S.," said a headline by WeSupportDonaldTrump.com. The website, which lacks original reporting, has a hodgepodge of articles about politics with a pro-President Donald Trump slant.

Facebook flagged this story as part of its efforts to combat false news and misinformation on Facebook's News Feed. Read more about our partnership with Facebook.

"Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, also known as ‘AMLO,’ has been openly telling his people to flood the U.S. border. What AMLO is asking his people is not a surprise… Apparently, he has been planning this for years but nobody really cared to pay attention," the story reads.

The story used a quote of López Obrador for which they cited the Daily Caller to back up their point:

" ‘And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,’ López Obrador said, adding that immigrants ‘must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.’ He then declared it as ‘a human right we will defend.’ "

We found the original quote in the Mexican newspaper, El Universal. It has been taken out of context.

"Y ya pronto, muy pronto, al triunfo de nuestro movimiento vamos a defender a los migrantes de todo el continente Americano y todos los migrantes del mundo que, por necesidad, tienen que abandonar sus pueblos para buscar la vida en Estados Unidos, es un derecho humano que vamos a defender," El Universal quotes López Obrador saying in a speech on June 19.

That translates to: "Soon, very soon, after the victory of our movement, we will defend migrants all over the American continent and the migrants of the world who, by necessity, must abandon their towns to find life in the United States; it’s a human right we will defend."

López Obrador is not telling anyone to flood the border, but saying that he will defend those who find themselves with no other option but to relocate to the United States. The quote was delivered in the wake of news of the Trump administration’s rampant separation of families at the border. Over 2,300 children were separated from their parents between May 5 and June 9, according to the Homeland Security Department.

We found no indications that López Obrador was encouraging people to abandon their towns in favor of the United States. Instead, he urged current Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to complete the following three actions:

Send a diplomatic note in protest of the Trump’s administration’s policies to the United States;

Solicit the urgent intervention of the United Nations commissioner for human rights; and,

Send a team of lawyers, psychologists and social workers to aid kids and their parents at the border.

Bloggers have distorted López Obrador's quote to stoke fears. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.

Goodnight, everyone.

Holy shit it took you all that time just to say it was a mistranslation? Christ almighty.

Originally posted by Surtur
Holy shit it took you all that time just to say it was a mistranslation? Christ almighty.

I thought I'd made that clear the first time around:

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
YouTube video

Cult of Trump strikes again.

It is weird though...Jorge Ramos was on Tucker and couldn't explain why this was said. So even the mexicans got fooled...?

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Ah, **** it. I'm tired. I was going to translate the entire article from El Universal and the entirety of Obrador's speech in the video clip, but this will suffice:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/25/blog-posting/mexico-presidential-candidate-call-immigration/

Goodnight, everyone.

Appreciate your hard work. Thanks for clearing this up.

Originally posted by Surtur
Holy shit it took you all that time just to say it was a mistranslation? Christ almighty.

IOW: Surtur fell for fake news once again

Originally posted by Robtard
IOW: Surtur fell for fake news once again

I fell for it too because I didn't bother to fact check it.

Originally posted by Robtard
IOW: Surtur fell for fake news once again

IOW: Even citizens of mexico fell for this. You failed.

You think they're 'pieces of shit'. So that doesn't really help you now does it, el sporto :/

Originally posted by Robtard
You think they're 'pieces of shit'. So that doesn't really help you now does it, el sporto :/

I think Mexico is a shithole. But I would expect them to have a better command of the language than me.

Here is the most hilarious part: I'm sure they didn't actually look into it either. They believed it. They just assumed "yeah, this story about our most popular candidate telling people to flee to America is probably true".

Lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think Mexico is a shithole. But I would expect them to have a better command of the language than me.
Originally posted by Surtur
Here is the most hilarious part: I'm sure they didn't actually look into it either. They believed it. They just assumed "yeah, this story about our most popular candidate telling people to flee to America is probably true".

Lol.


:/
You should really do better for yourself.

I wonder how Jorge Ramos feels now. He went on tv in front of millions and acted like this was real...

Come on KMC. It's flyattractor, aren't you even gonna bother to check the source?

Originally posted by cdtm
Don't bother. I think you're projecting, no offense.

There is absolutely no way he's not downplaying the standards of living of his own country.


I guess not.
have no problem accepting that the article is flawed. But if this quote:

"leave their towns and find a life in the United States."

If that quote is correct, I fail to see the argument.


No suprise there.

The author of this article's about page fails to list any qualifications. The story itself is second hand linking an article whose headline translates to:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/elecciones-2018/amlo-urge-epn-detener-actos-racistas-e-inhumanas-de-eu-migrantes
"EPN URGES US TO STOP ACTS OF INHUMANITY TOWARDS MIGRANTS"

AKA, completely unrelated to what fly's article says the article said.

#Fakenews everyone.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Ah, **** it. I'm tired. I was going to translate the entire article from El Universal and the entirety of Obrador's speech in the video clip, but this will suffice:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/25/blog-posting/mexico-presidential-candidate-call-immigration/

Goodnight, everyone.

That's really all I thought he meant.

And it's still a bad message. Why not make Mexico better, instead of defending this "human right" to relocate?

Because it isn't politically expedient to admit you just want to reduce the drain on the Mexican economy? I mean, what other reason could it be? If it's for their sake, you make things better here, not encourage them to find a better life somewhere else, on someone elses tax dollar.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's really all I thought he meant.

And it's still a bad message. Why not make Mexico better, instead of defending this "human right" to relocate?

That is a Lesson that ALL of South America Should Try to Learn.