Hard to judge. His very best? Hard to scale, but a Universe could be destroyed, and Odin shouldn't even be harmed based on his high end feats directly/indirectly. At least if he can reinforce it with energy.
Originally posted by cdtm
*Cleans glasses*Not "How much of a dum**** is Odin." Because he's very lately.
Going by source books, and some of his lower feats, he's only as durable as your average Asgardian. It's when he channels the Odinpower, that he becomes near Galactus level..
The Odin Force is part of Odin's life essence, he can use it to amp obviously, but he doesn't walk around at average Asgardian levels, not even close. Odin for example has literally no sold powerful attacks from Thanos + Silver Surfer, Thor, Loki, Hela, Annihilus etc. all at his base without even noticing them. Those alone is something I find beings that not a lot of beings below Galactus can claim. Heimdall with a portion of the Odin Force no-sold an attack from Masterson is still my favorite.
Another crazy example is when Odin and Infinity were about to merge, the combined assault of Thor, Balder, Loki, Karnilla etc. just to knock him lose didn't even scratch Odin.
This scene isn't particularly relevant scene, but here is how a weakened Odin deals with Annihilus and should deal with any being below Thanos level even when significantly below his best:
Complete and utter dismissal. Like an infant vs. an adult. That is my ideal scenario. But comics are inconsistent by nature, and tbh, the lengths writers use to go to, to excuse Odin were extreme. He was a regular cast member that could end any threat with a wave of his hand. Modern day writers are MUCH lazier with less editorial restraint. Which is why you get the showings Odin, Galactus, Spectre etc. have racked up in the last decade.
Pretty durable.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hard to judge. His very best? Hard to scale, but a Universe could be destroyed, and Odin shouldn't even be harmed based on his high end feats directly/indirectly. At least if he can reinforce it with energy.The Odin Force is part of Odin's life essence, he can use it to amp obviously, but he doesn't walk around at average Asgardian levels, not even close. Odin for example has literally no sold powerful attacks from Thanos + Silver Surfer, Thor, Loki, Hela, Annihilus etc. all at his base without even noticing them. Those alone is something I find beings that not a lot of beings below Galactus can claim. Heimdall with a portion of the Odin Force no-sold an attack from Masterson is still my favorite.
Another crazy example is when Odin and Infinity were about to merge, the combined assault of Thor, Balder, Loki, Karnilla etc. just to knock him lose didn't even scratch Odin.
This scene isn't particularly relevant scene, but here is how a weakened Odin deals with Annihilus and should deal with any being below Thanos level even when significantly below his best:
Complete and utter dismissal. Like an infant vs. an adult. That is my ideal scenario. But comics are inconsistent by nature, and tbh, the lengths writers use to go to, to excuse Odin were extreme. He was a regular cast member that could end any threat with a wave of his hand. Modern day writers are MUCH lazier with less editorial restraint. Which is why you get the showings Odin, Galactus, Spectre etc. have racked up in the last decade.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hard to judge. His very best? Hard to scale, but a Universe could be destroyed, and Odin shouldn't even be harmed based on his high end feats directly/indirectly. At least if he can reinforce it with energy.The Odin Force is part of Odin's life essence, he can use it to amp obviously, but he doesn't walk around at average Asgardian levels, not even close. Odin for example has literally no sold powerful attacks from Thanos + Silver Surfer, Thor, Loki, Hela, Annihilus etc. all at his base without even noticing them. Those alone is something I find beings that not a lot of beings below Galactus can claim. Heimdall with a portion of the Odin Force no-sold an attack from Masterson is still my favorite.
Another crazy example is when Odin and Infinity were about to merge, the combined assault of Thor, Balder, Loki, Karnilla etc. just to knock him lose didn't even scratch Odin.
This scene isn't particularly relevant scene, but here is how a weakened Odin deals with Annihilus and should deal with any being below Thanos level even when significantly below his best:
Complete and utter dismissal. Like an infant vs. an adult. That is my ideal scenario. But comics are inconsistent by nature, and tbh, the lengths writers use to go to, to excuse Odin were extreme. He was a regular cast member that could end any threat with a wave of his hand. Modern day writers are MUCH lazier with less editorial restraint. Which is why you get the showings Odin, Galactus, Spectre etc. have racked up in the last decade.
😂
This one is still my favorite though.
Under Defalco no less.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
😂This one is still my favorite though.
Under Defalco no less.
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Pretty telling that in a thread about how MUCH Odin can withstand, what is the strongest attack he COULD possibly take, you feel the need to post a scan, that you think makes Odin look bad and offers nothing to the discussion, completely unprompted. Doesn't just make you look petty, it makes you a troll. If I wasn't a strong believer in free speech, even for idiots, I'd report you. At some point this stops being entertaining and just counterproductive to discussions. Remove your avatar and this was basically the post of a sock/random troll account. If you want to post out of context scans, there are threads for that.
And pretty ironic, posting a scan of not ONLY a weakened Odin, but a weakened Odin who's body is POSSESSED by Loki's soul. Poison Ivy mind controlling Superman doesn't count.....Literally in the very scan you posted, it shows that even when physical bodies aren't in play, Odin's essence at the most fundamental level (Metaphysical and spiritual) is far superior to Loki.
You could put Odin in the body of a ten year old and Loki in Odin's body, I'd stil take Odin under writers like Simonson, DeFalco, Stan Lee etc.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]Pretty telling that in a thread about how MUCH Odin can withstand, what is the strongest attack he COULD possibly take, you feel the need to post a scan, that you think makes Odin look bad and offers nothing to the discussion, completely unprompted. Doesn't just make you look petty, it makes you a troll. If I wasn't a strong believer in free speech, even for idiots, I'd report you. At some point this stops being entertaining and just counterproductive to discussions. Remove your avatar and this was basically the post of a sock/random troll account. If you want to post out of context scans, there are threads for that.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pretty telling that in a thread about how MUCH Odin can withstand, what is the strongest attack he COULD possibly take, you feel the need to post a scan, that you think makes Odin look bad and offers nothing to the discussion, completely unprompted. Doesn't just make you look petty, it makes you a troll. If I wasn't a strong believer in free speech, even for idiots, I'd report you. At some point this stops being entertaining and just counterproductive to discussions. Remove your avatar and this was basically the post of a sock/random troll account. If you want to post out of context scans, there are threads for that.And pretty ironic, posting a scan of not ONLY a weakened Odin, but a weakened Odin who's body is POSSESSED by Loki's soul. Poison Ivy mind controlling Superman doesn't count.....Literally in the very scan you posted, it shows that even when physical bodies aren't in play, Odin's essence at the most fundamental level (Metaphysical and spiritual) is far superior to Loki.
You could put Odin in the body of a ten year old and Loki in Odin's body, I'd stil take Odin under writers like Simonson, DeFalco, Stan Lee etc.
Your rant about how can someone post Odin's "durability" feats in a thread which asks how durable he is are amusing enough as it is.
Nobody said Loki had Odin's full power but neither did he in the Annihilus scene. You gotta take the good with the bad, it's how comics work.
Originally posted by riv6672
The lowballing in general.
In general Thor could affect Odin with hammer shots but not ko him. Jane made him bleed.
So he does have high Herald level blunt force durability.
Odin is somewhat resistant to cutting forces. Low Herald at best.
Odin has Skyfather level energy blast durability though.
Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalmYour rant about how can someone post Odin's "durability" feats in a thread which asks how durable he is are amusing enough as it is.
Nobody said Loki had Odin's full power but neither did he in the Annihilus scene. You gotta take the good with the bad, it's how comics work.
Where is the durability feat there? Loki's soul in a weakened Odin's body getting knocked down by Masterson Thor with a laughing emoji? You posted something you thought was embarrassing, in a thread asking what is the STRONGEST attack Odin could POSSIBLY take. You added nothing to the conversation, and have derailed the thread. Specifically, you replied to me, in an attempt to get a reaction out of me or something. It is the definition of trolling.
No but neither did you say Odin WAS weakened or Loki was in Odin's body. Context was not provided, there was no attempt at any actual discussion.
For the record: Odin in a child's body vs. Loki in Odin's body under the classic writers such as Lee, DeFalco, Simonson would own Loki because Odin's very essence is infinitely greater than Loki's and is intrinsically tied to Asgard, the essence of Asgardian's, and the World Tree.
There are also different tiers of weakened. It's not a set dial of 40% or something.
