team superman vs team terrax

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Surfer is physically stronger than Base superboy prime, but we can save that debate for another time

what happens when Stardust uses red sun radiation against Supes? and stardust does have cosmic awareness FYI

Surfer stronger than SBP...

Surfer's entire upper body is FAR inferior to Post IC/Pre Reborn Superman's single arm, let alone current Superman, let alone SBP. 😂

Where has Stardust ever used Red sun radiation against an opponent..?

Where has Stardust used cosmic awareness to learn of Superman's red sun weakness..? I'll wait.

Surfer didn't do it against Cyborg Superman, but his inferior Stardust will use it. lmaoo ok.

Here's a MORE realistic option to your fan-fiction:

Superman forcibly absorbs the stellar energy from Terrax and Stardust's energy auras, rendering them powerless.

See unlike your BS, Superman has actually done what I am speaking of, on a scale far beyond anything Terrax or Stardust have ever done.

Originally posted by panthergod
Surfer stronger than SBP...

Surfer's entire upper body is FAR inferior to Post IC/Pre Reborn Superman's single arm, let alone current Superman, let alone SBP. 😂

Where has Stardust ever used Red sun radiation against an opponent..?

Where has Stardust used cosmic awareness to learn of Superman's red sun weakness..? I'll wait.

Surfer didn't do it against Cyborg Superman, but his inferior Stardust will use it. lmaoo ok.

Here's a MORE realistic option to your fan-fiction:

Superman forcibly absorbs the stellar energy from Terrax and Stardust's energy auras, rendering them powerless.

See unlike your BS, Superman has actually done what I am speaking of, on a scale far beyond anything Terrax or Stardust have ever done.

Oh yeah? Show where Superman's done something like that before. I'll wait

cosmic/awareness/sense energy

http://i.imgur.com/n8NQB3e.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bNwGkl1.jpg

Surfer will beat Prime ass, wanna BZ this?

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Oh yeah? Show where Superman's done something like that before. I'll wait

cosmic/awareness/sense energy

http://i.imgur.com/n8NQB3e.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bNwGkl1.jpg

..And..?

Nothing showing him detect Superman's red sun weakness, which it took Lex Luthor teaching Radiation Man about Superman's weakness, and He specifically displayed the ability to detect weaknesses in the Thunderbolts.

Radiation Man couldn't detect Superman's weakness without help, Surfer couldn't detect Cyborg Superman's Kryptonian vulnerabilities, Stardust is NOT magically learning Superman's weaknesses just because you want him to.

Surfer will beat Prime ass, wanna BZ this?

I don't BZ, I just mudstomp you on the merits. Couldn't careless about KMC conventions.

Surfer can't even beat Hank ****ing Henshaw Cyborg Superman: on panel fact.

SBP would mudstomp Odin, let alone Surfer.

Oh, and Evil Star(during Ending Battle), Rampage(Byrne Era) and Mageddon(Morrison JLA#41), for those combat energy absorption feats.

Stardust has cosmic awareness, that allows him to know Superman's weakness by default.

What makes YOU think Surfer, or Stardust can't replicate/form red sun/kryptoniate radiation?

TRIUMP who's an EM user even confirmed he could drain Superman off his solar energy

Here's Supes ADMITTING that high level EM hax can KILL him if it's used to siphon the solar energy in his cells. Was Triumph using half a galaxy's worth of EM hax? NO. Thus, the claim and/or implication that it takes half a galaxy's worth of EM hax to drain Supes and/or to kill him is DEBUNKED.

https://imgur.com/jbhIiH9

Lol I do like how Stardust is allowed to do things he's never done on panel....

But every thing Superman does, needs acres of proof to show it's his average 👆

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Stardust has cosmic awareness, that allows him to know Superman's weakness by default.

What makes YOU think Surfer, or Stardust can't replicate/form red sun/kryptoniate radiation?

You fan fiction means nothing here.

Cite an instance showing them or any Herald of Galactus detecting Superman's weakness right now. Surfer already directly failed to against a Kryptonian. Prove your current implicit argument that Terrax and Stardust>Surfer.

Superman absorbs Terrax and Stardust's Star derived energy, with ease, using power and tactics he has DIRECTLY SHOWN in the comics.

Originally posted by panthergod
You fan fiction means nothing here.

Cite an instance showing them or any Herald of Galactus detecting Superman's weakness right now. Surfer already directly failed to against a Kryptonian. Prove your current implicit argument that Terrax and Stardust>Surfer.

Superman absorbs Terrax and Stardust's Star derived energy, with ease, using power and tactics he has DIRECTLY SHOWN in the comics.

You do know what cosmic awareness is right?

it's ability that gives you awareness in everything in the universe, do you need scans on what cosmic awareness does? you're not very bright

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Here's Supes ADMITTING that high level EM hax can KILL him if it's used to siphon the solar energy in his cells. Was Triumph using half a galaxy's worth of EM hax? NO. Thus, the claim and/or implication that it takes half a galaxy's worth of EM hax to drain Supes and/or to kill him is DEBUNKED.

https://imgur.com/jbhIiH9

So what?

Triumph is not Terrax or Stardust. they do not get another character's feats.

By this trash logic -- actually, by a FAR stronger reasoning -- Superman also gets the abilities and feats of characters like SBP, and HEl. At least they are Kryptonian. That's a much better amount of logical leap than citing an entirely different character from another universe with another power source, power mechanics, etc.

Surfer has the shittiest record against power absorption of any high end top tier. Accordingly, Stardust and Terrax have inferior resistance to energy absorption to their superior, Surfer.

By your argument-- actually using a FAR more logical extension of your trash reasoning--, Superman absorbs the stellar energy of Surfer's proven inferiors, Stardust and Terrax, with far, FAR greater ease, using abilities and tactics he has ACTUALLY USED in comics.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
You do know what cosmic awareness is right?

it's ability that gives you awareness in everything in the universe, do you need scans on what cosmic awareness does? you're not very bright

I'll tell you what cosmic Awareness isn't: you fan fiction excuse to make BS up as you go along.

Give instance of those specific characters using their power the specific way you claim in comics, or stop lying. Simple.

Originally posted by panthergod
So what?

Triumph is not Terrax or Stardust. they do not get another character's feats.

By this trash logic -- actually, by a FAR stronger reasoning -- Superman also gets the abilities and feats of characters like SBP, and HEl. At least they are Kryptonian. That's a much better amount of logical leap than citing an entirely different character from another universe with another power source, power mechanics, etc.

Surfer has the shittiest record against power absorption of any high end top tier. Accordingly, Stardust and Terrax have inferior resistance to energy absorption to their superior, Surfer.

By your argument-- actually using a FAR more logical extension of your trash reasoning--, Superman absorbs the stellar energy of Surfer's proven inferiors, Stardust and Terrax, with far, FAR greater ease, using abilities and tactics he has ACTUALLY USED in comics.

For one, Superman has never absorbed stellar energy. period

Originally posted by panthergod
I'll tell you what cosmic Awareness isn't: you fan fiction excuse to make BS up as you go along.

Give instance of those specific characters using their power the specific way you claim in comics, or stop lying. Simple.

cosmic awareness allows you to have awareness over everything in the universe you baffoon. The fact you don't even know this yet shows your lack of knowledge on comics.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
For one, Superman has never absorbed stellar energy. period

lmaooooo

yeah, keep posting them gifs, that's what debaters do when they can't properly rebuttal

All suns are stars.

In JLA/Avengers the JLA gave the Avengers access to their database since they would NEED such access to build the devices they needed to help them battle Krona. Thus, it can be said that Surfer, or Stardust would have prior knowledge of Supe's weakness regarding EM hax as well as exposure to certain radiation frequencies.

Why? Because they have cosmic awareness WHICH helps with that

JLA/Avengers #4. Both Radioactive Man and Solarr are KILLING Supes via a combo of Red Solar Radiation and the equivalent of Green Kryptonite Radiation. Were those 2 villains blasting him w/ anything even close to half a galaxy's worth of solar radiation? NO.

THUS, Surfer can effortlessly replicate that. REGARDLESS of lex telling them supes weakness to do so, surfer has cosmic awareness so he doesn't need Lex

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
cosmic awareness allows you to have awareness over everything in the universe you baffoon. The fact you don't even know this yet shows your lack of knowledge on comics.

You have yeto estabvlished that EITEHR Stardust nor Terrax have true Cosmic Awareness.

Cosmic senses are not necessarily the same as Cosmic Awareness, which manifests to varying degrees based on the character. They are not Protectors of the Universe like Captain Mar-Vell or Genis-Vell.

No, they do NOT get other character's feats and abilities they have never individually shown because you want them to due to bias.. PERIOD.

..Superman isn't from Surfer's universe which has entirely distinct laws of physics idiot.

Radiation Man Characters who have actually displayed the ability to use energy senses to detect weakneses--unlike Stardust and Terrax-- need the all time expert on Kryptonite weaknesses Lex Luthor to coach them on how to exploit Kryptonian weaknesses as proven in JLA/Avengers.

Surfer specifically FAILED to detect A Kryptonian's weakness in combat. PERIOD.

no amount of fan fiction whining will change that. 😂