Hobbs & Shaw

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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I'm sorry, the whole fast and furious franchise lost its appeal after Tokyo drift. I absolutely hate how they became borderline superhumans and badass ninja spec ops type people. Ruined the entire franchise for me.

Live action M.A.S.K. movies 😉

I've never really watched these movies except the first one that The Rock was in.

This trailer however looks dope.

I'm not saying they're not good movies. I just dont like how the universe started out grounded to they're now fighting superhuman bulletproof Idris elba.

When the first Fast and Furious came out it started this huge drag racing craze

Making a movie about drag racing only worked for the first movie. Don had a bigger past and present then just that.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I'm not saying they're not good movies. I just dont like how the universe started out grounded to they're now fighting superhuman bulletproof Idris elba.

When the first Fast and Furious came out it started this huge drag racing craze


The series has re-invented itself a few times (different actors, settings, continual upping of the stakes), until it found a formula thats been box office gold.
What its done well is combine all that into one coherent universe, not sweeping any one movie or actor under the rug.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Making a movie about drag racing only worked for the first movie. Don had a bigger past and present then just that.

This is basically it. You can only do the close-up of someone pressing the NOS button during a drag race so many times before it gets old. They had to expand the franchise or it would have died long ago.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Yeah, kind of like The Rock in San Andreas. They had to pit him against a massive force of nature to level the playing field.

And the Rock still won lol.

Didnt Vin Dieseld best up the Rock in Fast Five? Now ive seen some unrealistic shit in these movies, but that was just another level of Unrealism.

I wonder if they're going to glaze over the fact that Shaw was literally a mass murdering terrorist who killed people in cold blood, including a member of the original cast.

Nah, they shared like a Corona or something at the end of the last film, so all is forgiven.

Seriously though, it was implied during the last film that the reason Shaw went rogue was because he got betrayed by his superiors and was used as the fall guy, so decided to turn evil instead. Plus, he did save Dom's kid in the last film, so he's done some good as well. Not saying all is (or should be) forgiven, but the character is clearly more complex than he initially seems.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I wonder if they're going to glaze over the fact that Shaw was literally a mass murdering terrorist who killed people in cold blood, including a member of the original cast.

Re: Han’s death, i noticed the incongruity of it in Shaw’s joining the team.
I cant recall the movie, but they had the same situation and the friend killer really stepped up, same as Shaw. Cue happy ending, only for one of the characters to kill that guy, in revenge. I was fully expecting the same w. Shaw.

But, it is what it is.

It gets discussed with (and handwaved, imho) Chris Morgan here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ew.com/movies/2017/04/15/fate-furious-han-shaw-chris-morgan/amp/

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Nah, they shared like a Corona or something at the end of the last film, so all is forgiven.

Seriously though, it was implied during the last film that the reason Shaw went rogue was because he got betrayed by his superiors and was used as the fall guy, so decided to turn evil instead. Plus, he did save Dom's kid in the last film, so he's done some good as well. Not saying all is (or should be) forgiven, but the character is clearly more complex than he initially seems.

No one on the team should logically be okay w. Shaw.
Thats why i said i felt it was handwaved by Chris Morgan.

I mean lets be honest, if Deckard Shaw had been played by someone as low on the acting totem pole as Luke Evans (no offense to him but Statham has a way bigger following and sells tickets) who played his brother, he likely wouldnt have gotten the backstory he did, and Dom shooting him dead wouldnt have been a swerve, but a fitting end to the guy who killed Han.
Someone else would have been written to save Dom’s kid, maybe Scott Eastwood’s newbie character, stepping up and getting everyone’s respect, possibly stealth filling the recently vacated handsome white guy spot of the late Paul Walker in subsequent movies and we wouldnt be having this conversation.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I'm sorry, the whole fast and furious franchise lost its appeal after Tokyo drift. I absolutely hate how they became borderline superhumans and badass ninja spec ops type people. Ruined the entire franchise for me.
This isn't a F&F movie.

Originally posted by Mindset
This isn't a F&F movie.

Its a spin off, yeah.
Speaking of Fast & Furious 9:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/01/dwayne-johnson-hobbs-and-shaw-fast-and-furious-9/amp

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I wonder if they're going to glaze over the fact that Shaw was literally a mass murdering terrorist who killed people in cold blood, including a member of the original cast.

He said "sorry bout dat, m8s!" so it's cool.

New trailer. Warning though, it reveals A LOT, so don't watch if you aren't keen on potential spoilers:

YouTube video

Originally posted by Robtard
He said "sorry bout dat, m8s!" so it's cool.
wish i could put a voice note here. As my Michael Caineesque accent is not far removed from Stathan's.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
New trailer. Warning though, it reveals A LOT, so don't watch if you aren't keen on potential spoilers:

YouTube video


I laughed, i cried, i was sexually aroused at one point.
Okay, twice.

But yeah, i’ll be watching this, it looks like mindless fun.

Also, it might just be deceptively cut, but it actually kind of looks like they have Hobbs rip off Cap's helicopter feat from Civil War at 3:25. Which would be hilariously absurd if it is the case.

And just for lols, I decided to watch this again, for a comparison:

YouTube video

What a difference 18 years and more than half a dozen movies make.