Leo's Secret Wars: Rd 1: PG vs Deathslash

ok, welcome one and all to the opening round of my little Secret Wars Event. competitors have been briefed on the rules. this is your BF:

https://imgur.com/a/fgHzMOS

you are in MINECRAFT. everything you can find in the MINECRAFT world is yours to use if you can make use of any of it. you start 1000 miles away from each other in identical surroundings to the picture but the terrain shifts rapidly. resources and characters exist as they do in the creative version of the game.

PG will be using an amalgam of MARTIAN MANHUNTER and VECTOR, while SLASH has MAXIMA and MIMIC (EXILES).

judges for this match up: Pr, phil and ds--my thanks for the help gentlemen. 👆

SLASH'S OP

right, so it's 1:57, so I guess I should start working on my OP. 😂

Let's get the small things out of the way, My character is a solid almalgamation of Maxima and Mimic (exiles). The chosen character of Psycho Gundam is a mix of Martian Manhunter and Vector.

I feel for him, choosing a character with a history of losing and jobbing and having to go up against a character with a history of winning. With that said, let's get the stats out of the way.

As far as speed goes, Multi-Max (that's what I'm calling her for the duration of this tourney) is fast enough to surprise superman.

She has Psi-bolts powerful enough to harm Powergirl.
http://oi553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/maxima_psibolt11.jpg

She can also smack around Superman with her energy beams.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111157701/3882153-0840534191-maxim.jpg

Now with that out of the way, my plan is this. When the fight starts, she uses her tk to locate manhunter. Then she teleports him away.

Assuming that it doesn't work for some reason, She'll use her ferrokenisis to set the environment or the air around him on fire.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111157701/3881950-action+comics+v1989+%23645+%28of+904%29+-+my+lady+maxima+%281989_9%29+-+page+3.jpg

If for some reason, that doesn't manage to knock him out, Multi-Max will just use her vastly superior physical strength, skill, and durability to knock Manjobber out/kill him. Well, that's my OP. Short, sweet, and to the point. Can't wait to read Gundam's ridiculously long post. 😂

PG's OP

"RAPE"

Keeping this super simple

-ON THE BATTLE FIELD-

Since I cannot use the allotted time for shields, my character will render himself immaterial as well as totally invisible then lastly block my opponent's bread and butter on a global scale. All powers are nigh instantaneous.

Idunno what kinda battle field is being tossed at me me but I am pretty sure my gestalt character would be pretty safe in any environment (it would take some real skulduggery to effect what I have here), so as an invisible wraith my opponent will have to argue how he will locate my character and all the while that is going on I will have my character take the surgical route and pick my shots from a distance via Martian vision coupled with vast super speed, enough to blitz white Martians to whittle down my opponent. Shields will be likewise phased through and again, Martian vision or force blasts that are able to able to remove a large portion of Professor/Merged Hulk's tissue (Base level of power same as an enraged Savage Hulk) and almost oneshot Thor and the Avengers.

Rinse and repeat, never going visible nor tangible for any of it.

Yeah yeah. I apologize for slacking but Deathslash did less than I expected he would do which is why writing a novel to explain all this isn't necessary, but him and I both seem to agree that Mimic is useless here.

Originally posted by leonidas
Now with that out of the way, my plan is this. When the fight starts, she uses her tk to locate manhunter.

Deathslash didn't even use his preparation time to mount a defense, instead he went in naked with his opening salvo being used to locate his opponent. The shitball started rolling down hill right there. His telepathy would be blocked right out of the gate via Vector's power. Vector was in New mexico when he blocked Xavier's telepathy who was in New York state, 2023 miles away.

For the sake of quantifying his flight speed, this vessel was going just over 8 times the speed of light and Martian Manhunter was able to remain in a velocity deadlock with it meaning he was going about the same rate.

https://imgur.com/yPHbfaP

https://imgur.com/WCsQ679

https://imgur.com/b1EAgbU

He has Maxima standing out there without shields looking stupid and in the first second of the match she's getting hit thousands of times by Martian vision potent enough to take out Fernus

https://imgur.com/t8gJ3pW

https://imgur.com/MTn1HUq

Match Superman's heat vision and drill down to Earth's mantle to reignite a volcano the likes of which have never been scene since the cooling of the planet billions of years ago.

https://imgur.com/NEybvj2

And lastly, force blasts from Vector that are powerful enough to make Thor use all of his strength just to brace Mjolnir to block it.

Maxima doesn't see any of it coming, can't stop it or mount a counter.

Speaking of that, let's assume Deathslash can use hoer effectively for a sec:

MM's casually telepathically sat her on her ass while she was bloodlusted during some team infighting

https://imgur.com/y3AUaX5

https://imgur.com/UwaPL5e

https://imgur.com/h7NWMfr

And Trained to withstand the fire weakness Deathslash wants to exploit

https://imgur.com/TggGCJ2

guess I've put this off long enough.

We start 1,000 miles away from each other. The moment that Multi-Max fails to psychically find him is the moment that her shields go up

and she changes form. Now this isn't her replacing her already epic durability with Colossus', this is her adding Colossus' durability to her own. Because with Mimic, powers stack.

Now, PG seems to believe that invisibility is actually a problem for Multi-Max. This is simply false. Do you know why? His plan consists of battering her with force blasts and martian vision. Even if he is invisible, it's easy to discern where the blasts are coming from.

Not only are Vector's blasts a visible force:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-49a9d4ceb869d1032d94af912c4c6926.webp

But so are Manhunter's beams:

He's literally giving himself away with each attack.

And let's keep in mind, as far as the Martian Vision/force blasts angle goes, she still has Wolverine's healing factor on top of her own. Powers stack remember? She's going to be in this fight for a loooooong time.

The moment that he starts blasting, she teleports his keister across the galaxy.

If that for some reason fails, she makes herself a fast moving target. Not very hard when she has Northstar's speed:

added to her own:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/119238/3830369-0712974543-16701.jpg

If she ever gets into a tight spot, she just teleports away if need be.

She then uses her ferrokinesis to set the surrounding trees, bushes, shrubs, air, whatever on fire for the easy win. Because yes, he's still vulnerable to fire. I'll explain this more in my final post.

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psycho gundam wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 10:30 PM:
Deathslash, you done shit the bed.

You should have left Mimic out of this and now you have let my simple (and very accurate) provocation concerning your meta pick fatally cripple your argument.

Mimic can copy power, yes, but at only 50% potency meaning that of the 5 templates he can utilize at once, they are only half as powerful when he uses any of them, for example Northstar's speed is capped at half lightspeed. Now the part that got you some plastic bed sheets is that you went and used Colossus' metallic form out of desperation. The obvious problem being that they are at 50% efficacy when but more importantly, Colossus's power replaces all of his molecules with organic metal ones, so whatever vaunted durability Maxima has is replaced with 50% of Colossus'.

Here is Mimic's Canal street Wolverine claws (also organic metal) and hand being easily busted by Hyperion's strength. That Hyperion was equal in power to time plucked versions of him and he was beaten by them. The only difference was that he was just a more ferocious fighter than them. Martian manhunter would have given him a fight any day of the week. You've given yourself mid-meta durability, well half of it.

Real Colossus was pushed to his limits when heated to incandescence by Pyro's fire

https://imgur.com/lXxRZtX

https://imgur.com/oR0lEel

And Pete Wisdom's heat knife almost killed him

https://imgur.com/tWQwUmP

You have half of the durability to withstand heat vision that vastly surpasses the range and molecule unbinding temperatures Colossus has gone up against that any run of the mill Martian has, case in point, Tronix here almost kills Wonder woman with a single clean hit from her Martian vision

https://imgur.com/OCjNxqX

https://imgur.com/ob0IWe5

-Shields/healing-

Deathslash wants to now put up shields after failing to telepathically locate my character and then turn in to off-brand metal, all the while he's being blitzed. Hokay

Not only that but then you have to turn on Deadpool's healing (50%) to survive the onslaught of heat vision and force pummeling you to death.

In the same comic you got his healing feat from, She-hulk casually kills the real Deadpool with his full healing factor meaning that it is far away from the safety net you need it to be

https://imgur.com/XCSJDOH

https://imgur.com/k5gnzyp

Like he's dead...from just that

The teleportation and ferrokinesis (not pyrokinesis Deathslash is confusing it with) are aspects of Maxima's telepathy/telekiesis which are being blocked by Vector's power. Assuming you teleported him away as far as possible (even though he is undetectable and untouchable), the minecraft world space is only the equivalent size of a space larger than the planet Neptune

Meaning that just relegated to 1X lightspeed, Martian manhunter would cover 5 times that distance in one second.

This wasn't a just a beating...

pg got his final post in before the deadline, so judges will take it into consideration. match is now done and in the hands of the judges. 👆

darksaint's vote:

So, time for the best vote of the tourney thumb up.

This was a bit strange. A BZ that was filled with What If?s. But I digress.

Deathslash had a great amalgam - the problem is, I had a lot of trouble (and I think he did as well) figuring out her powers. Using TK to locate people? Ferrokinesis to set the air on fire? It's like someone took a wrong turn when explaining powers - surely it's TP for location, and I am still unsure how controlling iron/metal causes fire....

PG's amalgam had the ultimate jobberiness. However, in BZs, that's not an issue - PIS is turned off, and (hopefully!) CIS is also off. His scan of a direct TP confrontation between MMH and Maxima was also useful.

Ultimately, the BZ was short and sweet, and so too, therefore would be my ruling. PG wins.

He has the speed advantage AND the stealth advantage. Whilst his Vector beams and Martian Vision ARE visible, I'm not sure how that would help Deathslash after he's been hit a couple of times (being generous with the speed disadvantage here). Put it this way, if Tyson punched me a couple of times with 2 free hits, I'm going to be pretty dazed/KO'd, even IF I could see him.

Yes, Deathslash has that teleporting offense, which IF he can fire it off, would net him the win. But unfortunately, without the final post from him rebutting PG's posts on 50% of the HF/durability/speed, I simply cannot just give him the benefit of the doubt.

phil's vote

Starting positions
The fight starts 1,000 miles away.
With that in mind a lot of stuff falls to the wayside for Deathslash. No proof has been posted that Maxima can sense people from that distance [in fact, she used the instruments to get in the proximity of the person she had to detect]. Furthermore, the scan of her creating fire is, well, of her not doing that.
The same problem arises for PG. He starts the fight at the same distance, yet provides no use of his J'onn/Vector attacks from that range. He shows that Maxima won't detect him, but even so, the bottom line is that they both have to close the distance.

Confrontation
Deathslash made a good point about the blasts being visible but, the fact that he can only see the blasts when they're already sent, puts her at a massive disadvantage [and it's not like PG will be standing still after he blasts]. PG inadvertedly proved the speed Deathslash operates at [i.e. half of lightspeed, on top of Maxima's own speed] in his last post, so he kind of supported the fact that he'd dodge some blasts [at least for a while], which gave me a chuckle.

The problem is, deathslash doesn't really have an offense here. Fire weakness wasn't properly addressed, and he didn't conclusively show Maxima creating fire in itself. So that leaves us with teleportation. Unfortunately, PG is, from the get-go, intangible. Her teleportation 'blast' would probably just pass through J'onn, if it even hits him, considering he's fast on the move. So that leaves, well, nothing from Deathslash's side. He'd play defense for a while, with the durability [which I see as stacking], healing, shield [which is not shown as impressive enough considering what he's up against, not to mention J'onn can just go through it] and teleportation away but, eventually, the overwhelming firepower from J'onn/Vector would take him down.

Winner: PG.

congrats to pg and thanks to the judges for chiming in. 👆