killmonger vs luke cage

Started by leonidas2 pages

antarctic? where'd you get that? scan says the vibranium came from wakanda not antarctica... is there some other place that says it's anti-metal? 😕

if it were anti-metal, not sure how it would sculpt anything. it would simply melt the metal.

Originally posted by leonidas
antarctic? where'd you get that? scan says the vibranium came from wakanda not antarctica... is there some other place that says it's anti-metal? 😕

if it were anti-metal, not sure how it would sculpt anything. it would simply melt the metal.

Quick history lesson here, old man 😛

Both Wakandan and Antarctic varieties of vibranium are referred to simply as "vibranium". The latter was actually the first vibranium in comics.

T'Challa has the access to both - hence why his claws are made out of it.

Exactly, it liquefies it (though that effect depends on the writer, BP used them for climbing, they were getting embedded in plane just fine), so Alicia can work with her hands and mould it... that's literally the only thing she's been known for (other than being blind), by the way...

This whole thing was discussed here in CBvF quite a few times, actually. The conclusion is always the same, Alicia used anti-metal:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14092791&highlight=statue+anti-metal#post14092791

Feel free to disagree. This one is always fun.

consider me in the "disagrees" camp. 👆 initially anti-metal was called vibranium (as it was the first type discovered) but the 2 were differentiated pretty regularly by different names, even by the time the hulk issue came out. and while wakanda would have had some anti-metal, maybe (anti-metal claws came out a LONG time after that hulk book....) the much more obvious answer is it's simply wakandan vibranium, as it says. unless someone shows me anti-metal actually shaping metal, instead of simply melting or destroying it, i'll stick with the narration. anti-metal is crazy and the vibrations it gives off do not stop.
regular vibranium is also capable of breaking molecular bonds btw:

https://imgur.com/a/PerO3Vl

that arc was set in the past, making it possible the tool she used was just vibranium.

It says it was a vibranium blade donated by the kingdom of Wakanda. No matter how fine a sculptor Alicia is, she'd need more tools than just that, not to mention some protective equipment. We didn't get to see her on-panel working on the statue, right?

Anyway, in its weaponized form, anti-metal behaves quite nicely, as seen when T'Challa is scaling a jumbo jet:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122629/3780996-5609083456-26025.jpg

Or when Kasper Cole simply cuts the shit out of dude's armor with it:

There are more examples when it acted just as a damn fine blade against metal, being perfectly controllable. Like against Iron Man:

https://i1.wp.com/www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/black-panther-daggers-vs-iron-man.png?resize=667%2C1024

It makes no sense for me for the blade to be made out of Wakandan vibranium - it'd be like one of the biggest outliers of all time and one of its few cutting feats ever.

Cap's shield can slice through a tank with ease, it got deflected by Wolverine's claws just fine.

U.S. Agent's shield is 100% vibranium, yet it got busted by d-listers such as Protocide and Collective Man. If someone as frail as Alicia was able to carve the statue with the blade, then why Class 10 Walker couldn't behead Wolverine with his shield's edge (believe me, he tried his best)? Then you have his NI star shield getting cut by Logan.

Pak did bring the statue back, he hasn't elaborated on it in any book by any chance?

your stance is def fair and understandable. those are good examples. there are several examples of it destroying all metal in the area though. a tiny bit of it wiped out the tri-sentinel, for example. i guess NEITHER answer is great, or consistent with what has been shown more commonly. and no more word on the statue afaik.

Agree to disagree, then.

I wonder if some secondary sources (handbooks and so on) tried to clarify it.

Back to the original topic, I can see Cage's skin getting punctured by a decent weapon.

But just like with the nerve strikes I mentioned on the beginning, KM needs feats with such weapons.

yeah. i really wasn't sure how enhanced km has been shown to be recently in comics, and if he was enhanced enough to give cage a good run for his money.