Originally posted by carver9
Never happened.
The speeding moon you mean? Above planet level force.He was weakened in JLA 75. In JLA 29 he restored Earth's orbit with Hal Jordan when it was displaced by Starbreaker.
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums...hScanner017.jpg
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http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums...hScanner022.jpgSuperman destroys a planet size chunk of the source wall, to fill the gap a planet is sucked in the source wall.
That wasn't shared feat. With every punch Superman was destroying the world.
Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Then please prove how it is above planet level force, even when speeding, the mass gap between a planet and a moon is still large, and the text did not show how fast exactly.
Originally posted by ghostman
[B]1) Now first of all, I'd like to clear up some shit on this page specifically in regards to where the Moon's mass is stated on-panel:
"The Shadow's mass will be the same as the real Moon."
"81 Billion tons."
Now, that second line of dialogue, as stated by Batman, is false - the Mass of the Moon is not 81 Billion tons but is instead, in fact, much closer to 81 Billion Billion tons at 81 Quintillion tons, or at 73 Sextillion kilograms. I've also heard marvel **** drip try and suggest that the DC Comics variant of the Earth's Moon had possessed one billion times less mass than our real-life Moon, but this claim is also false. The writer of Justice League Vol. 2 #30, Dwayne McDuffie, had later specifically mentioned on his own website that he had tried to, and made a error in, calculating the real-life Moon's mass for this comic, as well as that he had originally intended to utilize the actual Moon's mass of 81 Quintillion tons. This is also very evident even in the dialogue itself, where it's clearly stated that the Shadow Moon's mass "will be the same as the real Moon", yet the distinction still wouldn't make much sense, if Earth's Moon in the DC Universe had possessed one billion times less mass than our real-life Moon.
2) For some "reason", some people always seem to selectively forget the basic scientific principal of "Force = Mass*Acceleration", even when it's been spoon-fed to them - it's also even funnier because that exact same comic, which had mentioned the F=MA equation on-panel, has already established that the Mass of the Shadow Moon, as well as the fact that it was heading to Earth. Still, do we know just how fast it was going?
"My ring clocks it at 7,614,000 km per hour"
...and thank you, Green Lantern! Now, we have everything that we need to figure out just how much Kinetic Energy the Shadow Moon was exerting while heading for Earth, and how much Superman had to exert to stop it! Keep in mind that Superman didn't simply "stop" the Shadow Moon either - he actually was able to not only match the Shadow Moon's forward momentum, moving at 7,614,000 km per hour or 2,115,000 m/s, but also outright shattered it into fragments and exerted far more than the necessary power to pulverize it.
KE = 1/2mv^2
KE = 1/2(73 Sextillion*2,115,000)^2
KE = 1.632727124e+35 Joules
Calculating the Kinetic Energy of the Shadow Moon has given us a result of 3.9 Quintillion Megatons of force - that's enough energy to destroy Earth 735.84x over!!!! good god... ****ing supes!!!!! heres the feat in action:
there you go.
Although I don't agree with the analysis but still.
The issues, please. I know he had destroyed a planetoid on Golem's forehead on panel, but first, it's size has never been mentioned, second, it appear to be smaller than regular ones and we do not no whether it holds the same mass.
Incorrect, the size of the golem's "planetoid" was equal to Daxam.
The feat was accomplished by their shockwaves, they even managed to knocked each other out. [/B]
Incorrect, the feat happens every time Superman punched Kal L.
Originally posted by abhilegend
If he can produce shockwaves that destroys the world alongside another superman, he can destroy a planet by one punch. It isn't a hyperbole, it happened everytime they strike ech other and it was explicitly stated to be their punches that destroyed the world.Here he does it by himself in one punch.
"Who can strike with such force they shatter-". It happened again and again. It happened 6 times in 3 comics, how many of them are hyperboles?
Honestly, if any other character destroys a planet 6 times in 3 comics with another slightly stronger version of himself in combat by just shockwaves anytime soon, his fans would nuke every comic book vs forum on internet.
Not that hard seeing Kal L could punch hard enough to shatter stars.
Although I don't agree with the analysis but still.
Incorrect, the size of the golem's "planetoid" was equal to Daxam.
Incorrect, the feat happens every time Superman punched Kal L.
Not that hard seeing Kal L could punch hard enough to shatter stars.
Originally posted by AbelAnderson
According to the analysis, the Earth should have been destroyed right away, the blast radius should be too big for either the moon or Earth to withstand it.
Not if Superman's near infinite mass absorbed most of the blast.
The moon was totally pulverized, not even rubble was left of it.
With the same mass while being inside of Golem? Not likely, also after Superman destroyed each power source, we did not see those planetoids completely collapsing, instead, he was most likely just flying through their core.
He destroyed the planetoid which destroyed the Golem.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pQ3lfQHrL8Q/VqnNTOnBkuI/AAAAAAAAHd8/ci9cG4XzGlI/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg
Golem started as a planet which was later absorbed in it.
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What you think is pretty much irrelevant.
They managed to knocked each other out, and then the planet was destroyed due to them both.
Where were they knocked out?
Shatter planets=/=Bust planets, with the term shattering, it means doing significant cracks.
Anti-Monitor was already weaken by lots of damage, and since when had Kal-L bust a more than one planet, let alone stars?
When he actually created a star by destroying two planets.
Also as you mentioned in another thread, statements in the 90s cannot be trusted, why should I consider it legit? No offense at all, just curious.
Wut? I'm talking about the narration from Silver age.
When he actually created a star by destroying two planets
The moon was totally pulverized, not even rubble was left of it.
Where were they knocked out?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Incorrect, the feat happens every time Superman punched Kal L.Not that hard seeing Kal L could punch hard enough to shatter stars.
I wonder why u keep leaving this out. mhmm
Originally posted by AbelAnderson
''With uuz's little moons'' ''with cosmic speed...creating a blaze of atomic power''
He used his strength to throw two moons together and use his speed to make sure they crushed fast enough to create a sun, that doesn't show him capable of busting starts.
No, creating a sun is far difficult than destroying one. He also snuffed out a star with just his breath.
Was talking about the real one.
What about it?
They knocked each other into different dimensions.
They also knocked out each other in an far earlier encounter.
That's not what happened.
That was in silver age.
Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Earth- 2 Superman mentioned something about destroying his world and the feat happened somewhere in Superman:Infinite Crisis.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/43/Superman_-_Infinite_Crisis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160405153425
But the space and time during Infinite Crisis was going crazy, and later it shown Earth-2 being right and well.
Exactly. He never destroyed a world. During the same fight, they heat visioned each other and the world was mentioned again.
