Thank You, Koch Brothers! (Health Reform)

Started by snowdragon11 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
I really like this idea. And then offer what is called a Medicare Supplement plan for those that want insurance for that remaining 20%. That's the American way: let Americans buy what they feel is best for their needs.

The government should offer a minimum. An 80/20 split is a good place to start.

France has a similar system. But they use copays. They have a copay schedule. Some of the more common services have a higher marginal copay cost to the total medical service cost like I was talking about, before. That helps keep the cost for France's universal option, down.

Here's what I think we can do: start with your idea. Maintain that for 3 years. And then adjust after collecting good data. But the plan would have to run for 5 years with the last 2 years being time to debate and put in an adjusted plan.

So, start with your idea in...2020? Then run it just like that through 2025. Then use the data from the first 3 years to draft an adjusted plan that goes into law 2025. Make the law finalization in 2024 to give Americans and the market place time to adjust.

At this point, I think talking about options beyond your suggestion is too nebulous and too much guesswork. We need damn good data. America is different than the UK or Germany.

We are similar to France, sure, but they have a "Medicare for All" solution with a dynamic copay schedule...that won't match up with America very well.

And it will take a while for costing regulations to make a true impact on the market (such as expanded durable medical equipment schedules and Usual and Customary fee schedules for common acute healthcare services).

I guess we can wait for head shakers or the folks that will avoid this.

When you put a plan in place 3-5 years is a minimum time required to gather actuarial data for future outlays even then that makes many nervous.

Ok DDM submit all your hardwork and proposals to your congressperson and make it happen.

This thread is utter bs and the OP is a moron

Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
This thread is utter bs and the OP is a moron

You're a nicer but far less funny version of the troll PVS. So you've got that going for you, which is nice.

Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
This thread is utter bs and the OP is a moron

Bernie Sanders is FAR smarter than you and he's probably on some level of senility considering his age, EvenMoreRetardedTI.

If Bernie is So Smart why aint He president?

Heck...why couldn't He even get the DNC Prez Nomination?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]If Bernie is So Smart why aint He president?

Heck...why couldn't He even get the DNC Prez Nomination? [/B]

Great question. He should be, actually. DNC had other ideas due to corruption because the Democrats are corrupt corporatists.

But, hey, so is the GOP. 🙂

So Bernie isn't really that smart then?!

Gotchya.

And yes. I agree. The GOP is Corrupt, but they are Pure Amatures when compared to the levels of Degradging Out Right Criminal Corruption of the DNC.

🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're a nicer but far less funny version of the troll PVS. So you've got that going for you, which is nice.

PVS was ****ing hilarious.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
PVS was ****ing hilarious.

He's still with us. He's Bashar Teg.

Originally posted by dadudemon
He's still with us. He's Bashar Teg.

Yeah, but as PVS, he was a force of nature...a relentless troll who not only made trolling an art form, but also made it a way of life. He was like troll-Jesus, making everyone's day better by just doing what he did. He doesn't seem to have the time or motivation now, perhaps due to the slower traffic and slim pickings left on KMC.

Maybe I'm just looking back at KMC with rose-tinted glasses? I just remember cracking up reading a couple of his posts and I really liked his memorable Carl avatar.

Oh you are way past Rose Colored Glasses my friend.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Oh you are way past Rose Colored Glasses my friend. [/B]

lol. I guess I'm unfairly comparing KMC now to KMC in its prime.

I'm more active as a poster now than I ever was before, and back then, I was only interested in posting in the Comic Vs forum. I did read the GDF a lot though. Lots of great posters have been lost to us since.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Yeah, but as PVS, he was a force of nature...a relentless troll who not only made trolling an art form, but also made it a way of life. He was like troll-Jesus, making everyone's day better by just doing what he did. He doesn't seem to have the time or motivation now, perhaps due to the slower traffic and slim pickings left on KMC.

Actually, it's because we broke him. He wrote up a long essay about it. Rogue Jedi and I ruined KMC for him. We kind of ruined most of those troll games he would play.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Actually, it's because we broke him. He wrote up a long essay about it. Rogue Jedi and I ruined KMC for him. We kind of ruined most of those troll games he would play.

Oh, I missed all of that. I don't remember Rogue Jedi.

So it seems the consensus seems to be Bernie was correct.

So lolololol@ that. Love it. Why do I love it? Cuz....

Originally posted by Surtur
YouTube video

So wow, CNN posted an updated "fact check" of the story. Case closed, right?

Ha no, cuz even after that Jake Tapper couldn't help himself. Bernie Sanders was tweeting out various things about what happened, which all turned out to be facts he got right from the study. Tapper then tweets this:

[b]'Your views on the Mercatus Center study and Medicare for All are your own, senator, but four major fact- checkers agree you're citing the report out of context."

Not only was Bernie not taking it out of context...but the "four major fact checkers" Tapper cites all used the SAME source he did, the author of the study(who by now it is clear was trying to backtrack on what the study showed, so he's shockingly not reliable and Tapper acts like he is)

And Tapper isn't the only one who got this wrong. Fact checkers at the Washington Post also did. Jesus christ lol. Two major media outlet "fact checkers" turned out to be full of shit.

Side note: I find Jimmy Dore can actually be tolerable as long as he's not around TYT. [/B]

^Don't wanna hear these whiny babies whining over being called fake news.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Oh, I missed all of that. I don't remember Rogue Jedi.

He posted in all the top forums, here. GDF, OTF, Star Wars, etc. Never in the comic book forums (or rarely).

So if you're an old comic book nerd, you missed the the drama and lulz from the RJ days.

Originally posted by Surtur
So it seems the consensus seems to be Bernie was correct.

So lolololol@ that. Love it. Why do I love it? Cuz....

^Don't wanna hear these whiny babies whining over being called fake news.

Oh yeah, Bernie is right. And not by just a bit, by a huge margin. There are multiple factors, 2 of which I sussed out, that make Bernie's plan cost even less than the projected costs. Anyone not supporting Bernie's plan or a plan that is just like it but with higher patient cost responsibility, they are idiots. And if they know that they are wrong but still stick to their position, they are complicit with the deaths of many many Americans who die each year because of our high costs and poor healthcare.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Oh, I missed all of that. I don't remember Rogue Jedi.
don't listen to the dadickbreath. he's just a bitter compulsively lying chimp who's obsessed with me. I'm just much older and, as you said, much more busy these days.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
don't listen to the dadickbreath.

Nice to see that one chuckle gave you the validation you needed to have a new nickname for me. Who said you didn't care what people on the internet thought?. 🙂

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I'm just much older and, as you said, much more busy these days.

That much of a time-difference on your personal time now that you're in your 40s instead of 30s when you trolled the forums?

Not buying it. I believe your drunken rants more than this "PVS face-saving. 👆

eat a dick, chimp

Bashy is both a Racist and Animal Sexual Brutalizer.

Sad Bashy... SO SAD!

PVS wasn't this grouchy!!!!!!!!!