I think Giganta is a speed bump either way. Cheetah seems to vacillate, but when she's presented as a near equal to Wonder Woman, she could be an issue, especially if the magic weakness comes into play and the writer has those claws shredding Superman.
This could be a decent fight most days if that Cheetah shows up, with Supes still having an edge. But he's going to play around a bit, try to protect civilians and not hurt anyone, etc. His edge could get decisive, even with the magic weakness, if Superman is playing hardball though, at least under a lot of writers. Bendis hasn't shown many signs of ascribing to a particularly powerful Superman with dynamic-type power, though. But he's just one guy even if he is the latest.
Cheetah blitz Batman, blitz Flash, blitz Cyborg and then blitz Superman as easy as it took Flash to hold his leg after she sliced it...
I'm giving her the edge here.
Lol.
Superman is objectively faster at both their highest showings.
This is being fair to both sides, and using high showings for both.
Carver, I am using your logic of battle feats. Combat feats. Let's ignore space cheese, as YOU yourself always say.
In combat, Cheetah has been outreacted by a human. Why are you being hypocritical and ignoring this? Cheetah has like three or four appearances, so surely on average, her Steve showing counts for a lot?
Or are we ignoring your usage of average portrayals now?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.Superman is objectively faster at both their highest showings.
This is being fair to both sides, and using high showings for both.
Carver, I am using your logic of battle feats. Combat feats. Let's ignore space cheese, as YOU yourself always say.
In combat, Cheetah has been outreacted by a human. Why are you being hypocritical and ignoring this? Cheetah has like three or four appearances, so surely on average, her Steve showing counts for a lot?
Or are we ignoring your usage of average portrayals now?
I dont debate like this. She's been blitzed by a human huh? Is this relevant to the thread (as soon as you deny this, I can post another showing similar to this...)
I wonder what your plan is in this post or are you truly being hypocritical? Then you're mentioning showings OUTSIDE of their fights. It's like me posting speed showings for Wonder Woman outside of her fight against Doomsday proving Doomsday cant touch her. I'm hoping your post was a set up post. This cant be Darksaint actually trying... I'm hoping it isnt.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont debate like this. She's been blitzed by a human huh? Is this relevant to the thread (as soon as you deny this, I can post another showing similar to this...)I wonder what your plan is in this post or are you truly being hypocritical? Then you're mentioning showings OUTSIDE of their fights. It's like me posting speed showings for Wonder Woman outside of her fight against Doomsday proving Doomsday cant touch her. I'm hoping your post was a set up post. This cant be Darksaint actually trying... I'm hoping it isnt.
Do you not?
How strong are Imperiex probes?
Do you want me to quote your posts where you specifically say you debate off combat feats?
Not sure what your usage of Grundy is for. He's all over the place....based on combat feats. In that very same story as your Grundy scan, for example, he one shots Swamp Thing. You know, the guy who's trans level in the tier thread? He's a recurring villain for Alan Scott, after all. A trans level GL.
I mean, HARDLY comparable to Steve Trevor, a...human.
Remember, we debate off AVERAGE showings. So if Cheetah has three or four showings, and one of them is getting owned by Steve, that's like 25% of her showings being blitzed by humans.
Which brings her average RIGHT down. You cannot deny this.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do you not?How strong are Imperiex probes?
Do you want me to quote your posts where you specifically say you debate off combat feats?
Not sure what your usage of Grundy is for. He's all over the place....based on combat feats. In that very same story as your Grundy scan, for example, he one shots Swamp Thing. You know, the guy who's trans level in the tier thread? He's a recurring villain for Alan Scott, after all. A trans level GL.
I mean, HARDLY comparable to Steve Trevor, a...human.
Remember, we debate off AVERAGE showings. So if Cheetah has three or four showings, and one of them is getting owned by Steve, that's like 25% of her showings being blitzed by humans.
Which brings her average RIGHT down. You cannot deny this.
Imperiex Probes are below Zod level (he took out 3 Probes solo).
So Grundy gained super speed because of the people he beat? You're hilarious. So you want me to dig deeper for lower speed showings on Superman? People with no speed tagging him? Come on Dark, we both know this isnt going to end well because Superman along with any other Herald have TERRIBLE speed showings.
So on AVERAGE Cheetah is human level speed wise. If you dont mind me asking, what is Superman average when it comes to combat speed?
Lol... in the fight between her and Superman, she blitzed him. You cant deny this. Stop trolling.
@Spectnaz (cant quote you)..
What I am saying is, if we look at what happened "on panel", Cheetah can most def win.
@Insane Titan, you're not worth my time. We know how our convo ends... you continue talking to yourself while i sit in the back laughing at your failed attempt at being a rage psycho. No more responses from me today bro. Enjoy.