Can Zod replicate Kurse's Mjolnir feat?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here's the key difference:

When Thor threw his hammer at Hulk, the force of the throw was so powerful, that when he grabbed it, Hulk was completely taken off his feet and floored.

When Thor threw his hammer at Kurse, he casually knocked it away.

Based on these interactions, if Hulk had tried to swat away Mjolnir, imho, he would have broken some fingers and got plowed into the ground.

Now we've seen Hulk vs. Thor in an extended fight in Ragnarok, it's pretty clear that Kurse is much stronger, more durable, and skilled than Hulk. He'd beat the utter shit out of him. Ragnarok didn't really change much though. Hulk vs. Thor is competitive even in h2h but Hulk is favored. Once an external factor like Mjolnir comes into play, Thor starts knocking him around. Or in the case of Ragnarok, his lightning powers.

We just have better CGI and an extended fight scene to confirm our initial hypothesis from Avengers 1. I will say that Thor in Ragnarok moved much faster visually and with more obvious skill than in any other appearance. Even when he was beating up the Shield Agents in Thor 1, demonstrating his great h2h skills, it was a lot less polished.

As for this thread: Zod can't replicate the feat. Let's not be dumb.

Thor didn't throw him hammer at Kurse.
Kurse knocked Thor away, not the hammer.

What's your basis for why Zod can't do it, especially given his strength feats are equal or above Kurse's?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Because a returning Mjolnir has no feats. Also, we saw Kurse struggling to lift up a rock which am pretty sure Zod could lift up with less trouble.

In that aspect Hulk, Thanos and many other beings could deflect a returning mjonlir.

In the scene Mjolnir was returning to Thor at full speed. In the same movie Mjolnir "RETURNING" to Thor from space was coming back fast enough to travel from outer space back to earth in seconds.

I just watched the fight again and Kurse wasn't struggling in the least to lift the rock. Lying wont help your point.
Every hit he was hitting Thor with, sent Thor flying.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And yet that has NOTHING to do with strength.

Beating up Thor with fists has nothing to do with strength?

Sure...

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

I dont remember Kurse lifting Mjolnir. And am sure you realize that lifting =/= deflecting a flying object.

Hulk tried stopping it but was clearly incapable.

Originally posted by Inhuman
In the scene Mjolnir was returning to Thor at full speed. In the same movie Mjolnir "RETURNING" to Thor from space was coming back fast enough to travel from outer space back to earth in seconds.

I just watched the fight again and Kurse wasn't struggling in the least to lift the rock. Lying wont help your point.
Every hit he was hitting Thor with, sent Thor flying.

But Mjolnir wasn't going anywhere as fast as it was when it was in space (average speed). Thor doesn't summon his hammer at great speeds when it a small distance from him.

But that's besides the point. The force Kurse hit Mjolnir implies that he was at least 2x stronger than the force it was coming with. So if we can calculate Kurse's strength from his other feats then we can guesstimate the force needed to swat Mjolnir out of the air when it's returning with that particular speed. There are no other feats by a returning Mjolnir in which to calculate.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Beating up Thor with fists has nothing to do with strength?

Sure...

Hulk tried stopping it but was clearly incapable.

Kurse isnt a brute beast like Hulk. He is actually inteligent and was blocking and countering Thor's attacks.

Kurse didnt beat Thor due to strength!

Nice! We are progressing. Point the scene in Thor DW where Kurse tried to STOP Mjolnir.

Because stopping =/= to deflecting.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Beating up Thor with fists has nothing to do with strength?

Sure...

Hulk tried stopping it but was clearly incapable.

That was Thor throwing it and not it returning.
Hulk tried to grab it, not stop it. The momentum of Mjolnir was enough to lift Hulk off his feet (overtaking Hulk's weight). He was carried away several feet before it dropped.

Bottomline: Thor throwing Mjolnir vs it returning are two different things. And Hulk tried to wield Mjolnir and not swat it away.

Originally posted by Inhuman
In the scene Mjolnir was returning to Thor at full speed. In the same movie Mjolnir "RETURNING" to Thor from space was coming back fast enough to travel from outer space back to earth in seconds.

I just watched the fight again and Kurse wasn't struggling in the least to lift the rock. Lying wont help your point.
Every hit he was hitting Thor with, sent Thor flying.

You do realize that Mjolnir wasnt flying that fast in the Kurse scene right?

He used both hands and moaned before launching it. Hulk stopped a Leviathan with 1 hand.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You do realize that Mjolnir wasnt flying that fast in the Kurse scene right?

He used both hands and moaned before launching it. Hulk stopped a Leviathan with 1 hand.

Hulk didn't completely stop it.
And frictional force from the ground helped. It was basically a bracing feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk didn't completely stop it.
And frictional force from the ground helped. It was basically a bracing feat.

Am aware of your opinion regarding the Hulk feat.

Yet its still way more impresive than Kurse moaning to throw a rock.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Am aware of your opinion regarding the Hulk feat.

Yet its still way more impresive than Kurse moaning to throw a rock.

Originally posted by h1a8
Maybe. We need to calculate the feats. Opinions don't matter when it comes to which feat required more strength.

IOW, you want a chance to low-ball the feats from the characters/side you want to lose.

Originally posted by h1a8
Maybe. We need to calculate the feats. Opinions don't matter when it comes to which feat required more strength.

Hulk was able to stop a leviathan with one hand without struggling. He can definetly lift up a boulder with less trouble. Its logic.

Without struggling? Lol

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Without struggling? Lol

I didnt saw Hulk moaning the way Kurse was.

Really depends how you see the Kursed and the Mjolnir feat.

-If you believe Kurse used nothing except brute strength to swat away Mjolnir, then it's clear he's physically more powerful than Hulk, no questions here

-If you believe Kurse was able to do that or at least in part because the Kursed are essentially anti-Asgardian living weapons (using some of Malekith's words/comments), then the feat lowers from a strength point-of-view

Originally posted by Robtard
Really depends how you see the Kursed and the Mjolnir feat.

-If you believe Kurse used nothing except brute strength to swat away Mjolnir, then it's clear he's physically more powerful than Hulk, no questions here

-If you believe Kurse was able to do that or at least in part because the Kursed are essentially anti-Asgardian living weapons (using some of Malekith's words/comments), then the feat lowers from a strength point-of-view

Interesting! Dark Magic being involved, nice proposition 👆

I forget exactly what Malekith says word for word, but it can lead one to believe that the Kurse are specifically design to take out Asgardians.

I'd have to rewatch Thor:TDW again, but it's my least favorite Thor film so that's not happening anytime soon.

Originally posted by Robtard
I forget exactly what Malekith says word for word, but it can lead one to believe that the Kurse are specifically design to take out Asgardians.

I'd have to rewatch Thor:TDW again, but it's my least favorite Thor film so that's not happening anytime soon.

Ohhhh I know. I dislike the movie. So full of inconsistencies. Thor 1 and Ragnarok are definetly way different than DW.

Can't say I dislike it, as I did get some entertainment from it, but it's definitely on the bottom tier of where I'd ranked the MCU films.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hulk was able to stop a leviathan with one hand without struggling. He can definetly lift up a boulder with less trouble. Its logic.