X-Force vs Defenders

Started by HulkIsHulk2 pages

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I liked her a lot, but she is a bit overpowered. Even ignoring the Final Destination-esque sequences she can cause, she can do things like pull off more impressive trickshots than DECU Deadshot through sheer dumb luck, without even looking, such as at 0:46 in that clip I posted.

The thing though, she never been anyone other than fodder with her luck power. And only half was luck, rest was skill.
And her luck barely stopped her from being killed by Cable and Juggs, so she yet has to beat anyone she is outclassed by with her luck powers. It just helps in having her stay alive.

At bare minimum Colossus would solo and Negasonic might be able to solo, and I could see arguments for Wade, Cable, and even potentially Domino soloing as well. Only Cage's durability brings that into question. But here is the thing: Colossus and Negasonic could one shot Cage. Negasonic would accidentally kill the rest of the Defenders while one shotting Cage.

X-Force stomps.

You only need to look at the power balance to see why this is a massive stomp.

Team X-Force:
Deadpool - Superhuman stats, regeneration, weapons.
Cable - Superhuman stats, energy shield, weapons.
Domino - Enhanced stats, probability manipulation, weapons.
Colossus - Super strength and durability greater than anyone else here.
Negasonic - Basically a living explosion that can seemingly now also generate shields, as she shielded herself from one of Firefist's blasts in DP2.

Team Defenders:
Luke Cage - Super stats, but not any better than the best of team X-Force.
Jessica Jones - Super stats, but her durability won't make much of a difference against X-Force's arsenal.
Punisher - Human with weapons.
Daredevil - Human with enhanced senses and a pair of billy clubs.
Iron Fist - An energy/blunt force melee attack with limited use, but is otherwise also human.

Just on team stats alone, X-Force completely outclasses them as a whole.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The thing though, she never been anyone other than fodder with her luck power. And only half was luck, rest was skill.
And her luck barely stopped her from being killed by Cable and Juggs, so she yet has to beat anyone she is outclassed by with her luck powers. It just helps in having her stay alive.

Here is the thing though, whether it was by the skin of her teeth or not, she ended that movie without a scratch on her and everything worked out in her favour. It's actually a horrible power to argue for or against, because it's basically, as Deadpool put it, the power of "lazy writing". She is basically a walking PIS machine.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
You only need to look at the power balance to see why this is a massive stomp.

Team X-Force:
Deadpool - Superhuman stats, regeneration, weapons.
Cable - Superhuman stats, energy shield, weapons.
Domino - Enhanced stats, probability manipulation, weapons.
Colossus - Super strength and durability greater than anyone else here.
Negasonic - Basically a living explosion that can seemingly now also generate shields, as she shielded herself from one of Firefist's blasts in DP2.

Team Defenders:
Luke Cage - Super stats, but not any better than the best of team X-Force.
Jessica Jones - Super stats, but her durability won't make much of a difference against X-Force's arsenal.
Punisher - Human with weapons.
Daredevil - Human with enhanced senses and a pair of billy clubs.
Iron Fist - An energy/blunt force melee attack with limited use, but is otherwise also human.

Just on team stats alone, X-Force completely outclasses them as a whole.

Yep. Too much power, too much hax, too many weapon options, too much skill for Team Defenders to handle. I agree with pretty much all the arguments made on here in the Defenders favor.