Who would be a bigger threat: Thor vs. Superman

Originally posted by h1a8
Peak Pressure = Peak Force /Area of tip
> 221 tons/ (pi x (0.001m)^2]
= [b]313 million tons per square inch

So give me feats where Thor was shown to withstand pressures on his body above 313 millions tons per square inch. [/B]

Originally posted by h1a8
Star was probably around less than 100 feet in diameter.

Originally posted by h1a8
The feats doesn't matter.

Originally posted by h1a8
I believe a steel door would stop Mjolnir from returning on the first attempt.

Proof that h1 is a troll

😂 at the steel door one. Never saw that before.

Why exactly can't h1 even be temp banned? Carver's been banned for a fraction of what h1 does every thread

Because Impediment is the single laziest mod the forum has ever seen tbh.

Paul should flex his newfound powers imo

Here's another one for the list SM:

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman sliced a steel I beam in half with a swipe of his HV.
You need a heat energy comparable to a star to be able to melt steel of that size to that degree that fast.

Thanks, I've added it to the list

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Here's another one for the list SM:

Perhaps refering to a Brown Dwarf Nibe 😂

You should advance search 'star' and h1's username on this site. I bet he had some doozies before IW came out

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nonsense and no trolls argue in battle zones. Trolls like h1 never put themselves on the line. Same with d. Thor, etc.

Lmao Youre trolling right now.

At this point, no one should even reply to h1 unless it is within the confines of a BZ. That way, he will get called out every time he lies/misrepresents/uses manipulated values/moves the goalposts/shifts burden of proof/etc.

Til then, it's a waste of time because he would just simply resort to the above tactics.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
At this point, no one should argue against h1 unless it is within the confines of a BZ. That way, he will get called out every time he lies/misrepresents/uses manipulated values/moves the goalposts/shifts burden of proof/etc.

Til then, it's a waste of time because he would just simply resort to the above tactics.

I've challenged h1 to at least 15 BZs, he keeps running away.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've challenged h1 to at least 15 BZs, he keeps running away.

Exactly. The most damning proof that he is a troll. Any credible debater would have no trouble in accepting a judged/moderated environment had they posted with the same level of feigned certainty that h1 has.

The fact that he ducks every single BZ challenge proves that even he doesn't believe in the things he says.

Anyway, looks like no one is buying h1's crap. So I feel like I'm just preaching to the choir. Gonna lurk for a bit til I'm bored again.

Here's a couple neato posts

Originally posted by h1a8
If Hulk did lift the weight of a star then we can find a lower estimate of the feat. Meaning, what are the smallest stars?

Anyway, can you prove that Hulk lifted such weight? If so then I'll help you quantify it to a lower estimate. Meaning, the feat took AT LEAST the lower estimate to achieve.

One more thing, it's possible that the writer meant that the staff was made out of dense star material and thus weighed a lot. For example, a teaspoon of a neutron star would weigh 10 million tons. So the edge of the staff could have been between 10-50 teaspoons of dense star material. That is to say, it was hyperbole to say "weight of a star".

Regardless the feat can be quantified to a lower estimate if Hulk indeed lifted the weight.

Meg Shark (in real life) > aircraft bullets

Originally posted by h1a8
being bullet proof is not a guarantee against their bites.
There teeth is much sharper than bullets, harder than bullets, and their jaws probably provide more force than most bullets anyway.
What type of bullets did Namor tank? Aircraft? machine gun?

Originally posted by h1a8
No they wouldn't. Both Hulk and Thor are susceptible to their bites. True that Namor has a much better chance than Thor or Hulk because of his maneuverability. Hulk has a better chance than Thor because of his HF. I would say Hulk wins, Thor losses and Namor losses.

And lol at thinking the sharks just swallow when they eat. They phucking chew dude.

Originally posted by h1a8
Namor is only NEAR the same level has Thor, Savage Hulk, etc. when they are not at high end levels but much lower levels. Do you understand? Average Namor in my opinion operates at about 100-500 tons of strength. Average Savage Hulk around the same if not a little more. Classic Thor around the same too.

Namor at best has shown about 50,000-100,000 tons of strength. This is hardly planetary. Thor doesn't even have planetary strength on average (not even at his highest).

You overestimate these guys (Hulk, Thor, etc.) Those sharks would bite the hell out of them too (average levels). These sharks have razor sharp teeth that's harder than steel with insane jaw pressure. They can bite through steel like it aint shit. Hulk, Thor, etc. on average has and can be cut by sharp fairly durable weapons.

Stop taking a character's highest showing as a measuring stick to someone else. Otherwise I can say Colossus has planetary strength since he went toe to toe with Gladiator, Hulk, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
Well I tell you this. I have read over 50 Thor comics (I physically have more than 20 paper versions), and many others. Of course I don't read every comic (who does?). That is why we have scans and respect threads. They are there for a reason.

From everything I read on Thanos he never seemed 100% bulletproof.
That means until the Thanos Imperative I believed that Thanos could be penetrated by high calibur bullets (like from military fighter jets).
Even after I accepted that he is bulletproof but barely. Now against wider attacks (like fists) his durability goes up, almost like WW and Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
I believe I know the characters fairly well to debate. After all, the scans show the feats. Everything else is just talk and plot.

I said, "barely bulletproof" which implies there are levels. Superman is bulletproof on the highest level. Hulk is bulletproof on a mid level.
Thanos is bulletproof on a mid level.

It does apply to this thread because one's bulletproof level is an indication of how much blunt force they can take. But it doesn't go the other way around.

"In the Agents of Shield episode One Door Closes, a Hulk fist print can be seen in Bruce Banner's cabin layered with a Silicon Carbide Vibranium. Silicon Carbide without the mixture of Vibranium has a tensile strength of 21 Gigapascals.

21 Gigapascals = 3,046,000 PSI = 1,523 tons of force.

Hulk's full power punch, ignoring that the Silicon Carbide was mixed with Vibranium to make this feat even better, would have 1,523 tons of force behind every inch. Since Hulk's fist print seems to be about 4 times bigger than Daisy's fist, Hulk's fist would be around 16 square inches give or take an inch.

Hulk's full power punch: 1,523 * 16 = 24,368 tons of force.

Hulk's full power punch was most likely higher, since the cabin wasn't just Silicon Carbide but also Vibranium."

Originally posted by One Big Mob
"In the Agents of Shield episode One Door Closes, a Hulk fist print can be seen in Bruce Banner's cabin layered with a Silicon Carbide Vibranium. Silicon Carbide without the mixture of Vibranium has a tensile strength of 21 Gigapascals.

21 Gigapascals = 3,046,000 PSI = 1,523 tons of force.

Hulk's full power punch, ignoring that the Silicon Carbide was mixed with Vibranium to make this feat even better, would have 1,523 tons of force behind every inch. Since Hulk's fist print seems to be about 4 times bigger than Daisy's fist, Hulk's fist would be around 16 square inches give or take an inch.

Hulk's full power punch: 1,523 * 16 = 24,368 tons of force.

Hulk's full power punch was most likely higher, since the cabin wasn't just Silicon Carbide but also Vibranium."

Nice intel

I don't know how true any of that is, but I found it trying to remember Norton Hulk's plot. Since h1 obviously doesn't care if he's wrong, I figure what's the harm posting something not proof checked?

The real feat is that being mixed with Vibranium though. Hulk hits hard enough to damage the hardest substance on Marvel Earth mixed with another material.

So probably double that amount would be a good estimate right? I guess it could go up or down either way.

You know what I think is funny? I have a pretty limited education compared to some of you guys. In the placement test for College ( which I ended up never attending) I got almost perfect scores in both reading and science, average in writing and completely bombed math. Like elementary level, but I can still look at H1's end results and see they are complete trash. Like, yalls equations and all that are complete gibberish to me and I can still see his answers are garbage.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
How much impact force does a 110kg man traveling 2500 meters per second have?

But like I said, the velocity Thor was traveling at when he entered the tunnel is extremely small.

Originally posted by h1a8
Post the video again or give the page number in which you posted it.

I posted pictures of the scene. Either the rings are under 2km in radius or the scaling is wrong.
If the scaling is wrong then you can’t make ANY calculations on speed, distance, and time. Especially when we see Thor's velocity is far below bullet speeds when he enters the tunnel of the forge and also right before his head strikes the beam inside the forge.

Also did you know that from rest
1) final velocity = average acceleration x time
2) distance = velocity x time
3) distance = 1/2 x acceleration x time^2

The beam acted on Thor for 4 seconds but Thor traveled for 10 seconds total.
Let’s assume that he traveled 80km in this 10 seconds. The average acceleration of Thor while he was pushed is 2.5km/s^2.

Thor is about 110kg in mass
Therefore Force on Thor = mass x acceleration = 110x2500 =275,000N Or
Less than 31 tons of force.

This force was applied on the majority of Thor's body. Let's say 144 square inches (closer to 300 square inches). The pressure is 31 tons / 144 in^2 = 0.21 tons per square inch.

Seems legit to me.

Originally posted by h1a8
Seems legit to me.

You also thought these were legit

Originally posted by h1a8
Peak Pressure = Peak Force /Area of tip
> 221 tons/ (pi x (0.001m)^2]
= [b]313 million tons per square inch

So give me feats where Thor was shown to withstand pressures on his body above 313 millions tons per square inch. [/B]

Originally posted by h1a8
Star was probably around less than 100 feet in diameter.

Originally posted by h1a8
The feats doesn't matter.

Originally posted by h1a8
I believe a steel door would stop Mjolnir from returning on the first attempt.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman sliced a steel I beam in half with a swipe of his HV.
You need a heat energy comparable to a star to be able to melt steel of that size to that degree that fast.