Red Hood Vs Bullseye

Cowardly, but expected.

Maybe some day, your balls will drop down from your belly, Chromy, and you'll be able to stand up for your own words. But this was not one of those times.

Continue with the meltdown.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gotta question. When Taskmaster one shot BE that was during Seige right? Wasnt he given a push because he was part of the Illuminati? I mean I remember him holding his own against IM and Stark early on. I always considered him in the LM class moreso than high street. He even beat Daken at one point iirc but that mightve because the heat drug was affecting him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He wasn't one-shotted, he was up in the very next panel.

Yeah, Daken was drugged and didn't even pop his claws.

Here, Sin:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/New-Avengers-2005/Issue-59?id=3150

Go to the last few pages.

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess. odd though to throw shade at me since i actually suggested cap to lm to begin with? he just really hates phil i guess, and by association anyone who doesn't share his sentiment. weird.

First of all I wouldn't really take anything that Stilt says about me seriously he likes to troll me. The other day he argued that Metron was a dumbass just to try and rile me up, he obvously doesn't think that.

Don't really want to talk about that tier thread again but if you were paying attention the thing that irritated me wasn't really Cap being in hs but being cut off in the middle of my pitch for no good reason. Now I saw you last post about this but decided not to respond because the thread had moved on. However you may have your reasons for shutting down the discussion but it's not just me but other posters wanted to discuss the placement and thought that discussion was good. People can disagree as much as they want but when somebody is given the opportunity to speak it's bad manners to cut that person short and other people who want to express their opinion.

It's actually not about hating or liking phil. You said you had been reading this thread but actually it looks you haven't because if you had you would notice that I have disagreed with Supermutant twice and agreed with Phil. I could go on but I'll leave it there. You're kinda illustrating my point.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Doesn't that stance negate your previous debate with Phil? I mean if you consider him LM. His showing with Bullseye makes more sense.

lm or hs not a lot of seperation in those tiers. He didn't use any gear with BE. He just punched him like fodder. BE is definitely a meta when given a healing factor and metal laced bones. Its sort of ambiguous b/c Clint shot him multiple times and stated too bad you will heal from this or something similar, while he was pretending to be hawkeye during this time.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Good assessment. I think Todd is more durable due to gear etc and maybe more consistent in h2h where as BE has beaten and lost to Elektra/Matt plenty of times...i think the thing that seals it is his accuracy which trumps Todd's and his damage soak plus blood lust.

By the way how is your post from the Bane & Red Hood vs Kraven & Bullseye thread, any different from what I have been stating in this thread? Minus the last part about Todd.

silly philly you should really seek professional counseling, please don't harm yourself

^ BE has a healing factor? You sure?

at one time he had one, writers seem to mostly ignore it since.

Originally posted by Deadline
First of all I wouldn't really take anything that Stilt says about me seriously he likes to troll me. The other day he argued that Metron was a dumbass just to try and rile me up, he obvously doesn't think that.

Don't really want to talk about that tier thread again but if you were paying attention the thing that irritated me wasn't really Cap being in hs but being cut off in the middle of my pitch for no good reason. Now I saw you last post about this but decided not to respond because the thread had moved on. However you may have your reasons for shutting down the discussion but it's not just me but other posters wanted to discuss the placement and thought that discussion was good. People can disagree as much as they want but when somebody is given the opportunity to speak it's bad manners to cut that person short and other people who want to express their opinion.

It's actually not about hating or liking phil. You said you had been reading this thread but actually it looks you haven't because if you had you would notice that I have disagreed with Supermutant twice and agreed with Phil. I could go on but I'll leave it there. You're kinda illustrating my point.

lol who said i was actually reading this thread?? i grew bored with the material in question pages ago, and was really only interested in the entertainment. i glossed like the last 5 pages. and that doesn't illustrate bias anyway, so.... yeah

and it's funny you think i somehow shut down....anything. i told you i didn't have that power, the thread is wide open for anyone. i said getting bogged down in one character was pointless, but that is exactly what it is--one opinion. and even doing that doesn't show bias--it shows a desire to move the f*** on.

so you called me bias and don't think i should judge a match because i wanted to move an unrelated thread along, and because you don't think i was following every word of a 7 page flame-war?? lol dude, seriously....

When the BZ is open, could we title it SuperChromy vs SillyPhilly?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When the BZ is open, could we title it SuperChromy vs SillyPhilly?

Only if DorkTaint69 will host it. 👆

Oof. I am happy to host once we are all in agreement with the terms

Originally posted by Supermutant
at one time he had one, writers seem to mostly ignore it since.

You mean under Bendis?

He wasn't necessarily wrong there, y'know. Lester has miraculously recovered from all kinds of injuries, sometimes with help, sometimes not.

But HF or not, we need to consider if it's battlefield effective first --- Wolverine recovers during the fight, while others need still need time off-panel, like Spider-Man.

Edit: wrong thread.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Edit: wrong thread.

There's no such thing as wrong hole.

👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You mean under Bendis?

He wasn't necessarily wrong there, y'know. Lester has miraculously recovered from all kinds of injuries, sometimes with help, sometimes not.

But HF or not, we need to consider if it's battlefield effective first --- Wolverine recovers during the fight, while others need still need time off-panel, like Spider-Man.

👆 yeah I was saving this for something else 😈

"too bad you'll heal" and of course about the HF effectiveness. Just look at some of his fights with Deadpool. Deadpool put a meat hook thru his chest once.

About the meat hook. He did, but it was specifically mentioned he needed HAMMER tech to recover.

HAMMER tech = SHIELD tech - it can fix all kinds of damage, including fatal impalements (Jubilee) or a snapped neck that was being electrocuted at the same time (Bullseye).

yeah but also after Dark Wind grafted his with adamantium it was supposed to give him a healing factor which has been mostly ignored

I think the herbs were supposed to work only during the (partial) adamantium-bonding process he underwent, not afterwards.

something else I was holding on too 😉

Here Bullseye gets stabbed all the way thru his arm by Daken's claws. Bullseye screams but very little blood is shown. The fight get interrupted by Emma, but Bullseye seems physically to be in pretty good shape with his arm. He's certainly not acting like someone who is concerned or even needing medical attention.

https://imgur.com/a/ZXhKX

Originally posted by leonidas
lol who said i was actually reading this thread??

Er you did.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i've enjoyed the hell out of reading this,

Originally posted by leonidas

i grew bored with the material in question pages ago, and was really only interested in the entertainment. i glossed like the last 5 pages. and that doesn't illustrate bias anyway, so.... yeah

Well if you glossed over it how can you be so sure there isn't any bias? Ok whatever at any rate don't be so sure next tinme you want to judge people's motivations.

Originally posted by leonidas

and it's funny you think i somehow shut down....anything. i told you i didn't have that power, the thread is wide open for anyone. i said getting bogged down in one character was pointless, but that is exactly what it is--one opinion. and even doing that doesn't show bias--it shows a desire to move the f*** on.

so you called me bias and don't think i should judge a match because i wanted to move an unrelated thread along, and because you don't think i was following every word of a 7 page flame-war?? lol dude, seriously....

You just keep making excuse don't you? Yea you kinda do have the power actually because since you decided to put it on yourself to shut it down it got shut down. You started that and you didn't need to.

You know what I could give you an olive branch but you really can't see how it's irritating for somebody to be given the opportunity to speak and then it gets cut short. You do realise that I made a fairly detailed post right, with actual references from comics. I had to dig those references up, you get that right? What part after somebody has made the effort to do that to cut them short is bad manners?

Who wanted to move on you? It's not just me who wanted to have a proper discussion it's other posters. Not only that other posters didn't have a problem with more discussion. In fact since you're actually vothing and making an effort to make a table is more reason to have a discussion.

An unrelated thread? facepalm The whole purpose of the thread was to allocate spots on the tier. How is discussing who goes where unrelated?

I'm fed up with this quite frankly.