DN Luke vs. DE Sidious

Started by The Ellimist2 pages

DN Luke vs. DE Sidious

1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

Sheev bitchslaps in everything sans sabers.

Jobbing Luke gets one shotted.

Non jobbing Luke wins handily.

Lightsabers are the problem for Luke. Poor Luke is just a kid compared to Sidious, who knows, maybe Sidious taught Anakin how to slaughter children so well.

Cosinga.

Bump

Not Cosinga.

😠

It’s pretty clear that DE Luke more or less overpowered DE Sidious in their battle aboard the Eclipse 🙂

An unleashed Luke wins sabers by Vector Prime and Force/all-out by TUF or DN.

Force only: around TUF, Luke wins; in middle of NJO, it's probably either way; Vector Prime and before loses.

Sabers only: late-NR Luke wins this; Vector Prime definitely; by TUF it's 9/10.

All out: somewhere in between.

This is Dark Nest Luke.

Luke by the last book when he shits on Lomi Plo would be interesting, though Palpatine would still win.

Earlier in the series, definitely Palpatine.

I don't think Luke reaches that DE Sidious/Valkorion tier and beyond until FOTJ when he's tussling with Abeloth every other day tbh.

I'm not sure if BoDN Luke and EoDN Luke are that different.

I haven't read the trilogy in a while, but I think it's just the mentality thing, which seems to make all the difference in Star Wars. When he has to go back and watch those recordings of Anakin and Padme in order to face Lomi Plo in the last book, though maybe that was just to deal with Lomi in particular due to her unique abilities. Can't really remember, I just know he roflstomps her super quick in the end.

Originally posted by Azronger
Sheev bitchslaps in everything sans sabers.

Sheev gets bitchslapped in everything 🙂

DE Luke is already as or more formidable a combatant in sabers/force as DE Sidious.

Desann > Sidious confirmed?

Hail Desann!

What does that have to do with Luke being above Sheev?

Because Desann beat 12 ABY Luke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And 12 ABY Luke >= Sidious

I'm just kidding btw

I've found a quote stating that it was indeed Leia who allowed Luke to beat Sheev, even stating the twins combined defeated him. Which basically confirms Luke isn't doing so by himself.

Pregnant again, Leia faced another major crisis: Her brother seemed to have become corrupted by the dark side of the Force, thanks to the teachings of the cloned Emperor Palpatine. He tried to corrupt her, too, but she escaped with Palpatine's Jedi Holocron. Later she rejoined Luke, and together they overcame the clone's dark side power.
- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Skywalker was too enmeshed in darkness to successfully rebel against his master. Although he sabotaged some of Palpatine's military ventures-namely those involving immense war factories called World Devastators-he still could not draw himself from the pall of the dark side. It was his sister, Leia Organa Solo, who gave him the extra strength he needed. With her presence, the two Skywalker twins were able to temporarily repulse Palpatine.
- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia