Originally posted by Darth Thor
Was a bit silly yeah. But I would note that Hela was stabbed through the chest on Asgard as well. But it didnt actually do anything to her.Stop being a fanboy. Hulk couldnt even take a A weaponless Thor in Ragnarok.
Dont make me laugh. Thor was emotional and underestimated Kurse.
Furthermore, Thor never land a proper mjolnir strike.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In the same aspect it could be argued that Kurse was an anti-asgardian weapon. Ergo, using the Thor argument is useless.The Leviathan punch still sits above anything Kurse has shown.
When something is stated to be "Anti-Asgardian", it does not mean that it makes Asgardians weaker. It means that it is potent enough in what it does to affect Asgardians (or Asgardian-level durability). Unless, of course, there is evidence that point out that it does so (make Asgardians weaker).
W/c means Kurse being an "Anti-Asgardian" weapon actually helps my argument, not hurt it.
Ergo, the Thor argument is very valid.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In the same aspect it could be argued that Kurse was an anti-asgardian weapon. Ergo, using the Thor argument is useless.The Leviathan punch still sits above anything Kurse has shown.
It can't be argued because you just made that up. Entirely untrue and nowhere has that been stated or even remotely hinted at. Your just making stuff up so that your favored character can win.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
When something is stated to be "Anti-Asgardian", it does not mean that it makes Asgardians weaker. It means that it is potent enough in what it does to affect Asgardians (or Asgardian-level durability). Unless, of course, there is evidence that point out that it does so (make Asgardians weaker).W/c means Kurse being an "Anti-Asgardian" weapon actually helps my argument, not hurt it.
Ergo, the Thor argument is very valid.
Am not saying it makes asgadian weaker. Am saying that it doesnt mean that Kurse can have the same effect on non-asgardians.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Am not saying it makes asgadian weaker. Am saying that it doesnt mean that Kurse can have the same effect on non-asgardians.
Um, and how does that work exactly? How can he affect Asgardians better than non-Asgardians w/o making Asgardians weaker or being an Asgardian-only weakness of some sort?
I mean do you think Asgardians/Dark Elves would have a different weapon against Frost giants or humans or Kree? Seems silly and I haven't ever seen that even hinted at in the movies.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Um, and how does that work exactly? How can he affect Asgardians better than non-Asgardians w/o making Asgardians weaker or being an Asgardian-only weakness of some sort?I mean do you think Asgardians/Dark Elves would have a different weapon against Frost giants or humans or Kree? Seems silly and I haven't ever seen that even hinted at in the movies.
Perhaps in the same way that kryptonite defeats Superman.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I dont have Hulk on my profile pic son. You have Thor.In other words, DONT MAKE ME LAUGH.
And I dont claim Thor can take Surtur or Hela or Thanos with Infinity Gems just because Thor is on my profile pic.
Heck I dont even claim hes above Superman or Silver Sufer.
Oh and I make actual arguments with some sense behind them.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Perhaps in the same way that kryptonite defeats Superman.
That has never been alluded to or even hinted at in the movies, however. And that would fall under the "make X weaker" characteristic.
Unless X has special qualities that affects something in a uniquely negative way is alluded to in a story, then isn't it incorrect to simply assume it exists?
Basically, no evidence = does not exist?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Please dont make me laugh.
What's there to laugh at? Was it stated or hinted at anywhere in any of the MCU movies? Yes or no? Do you have any reason, through interviews or anything else to come to that conclusion? Yes or no?
I bet the answer is no to both, hence, you completely made it up and it is an untrue statement.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And I dont claim Thor can take Surtur or Hela or Thanos with Infinity Gems just because Thor is on my profile pic.Heck I dont even claim hes above Superman or Silver Sufer.
Oh and I make actual arguments with some sense behind them.
Am not the one saying that Kurse wins because he defeated Thor 😂
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
What's there to laugh at? Was it stated or hinted at anywhere in any of the MCU movies? Yes or no? Do you have any reason, through interviews or anything else to come to that conclusion? Yes or no?I bet the answer is no to both, hence, you completely made it up and it is an untrue statement.
I never stated it to be so, perhaps you should work on your reading skills.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
That has never been alluded to or even hinted at in the movies, however. And that would fall under the "make X weaker" characteristic.Unless X has special qualities that affects something in a uniquely negative way is alluded to in a story, then isn't it incorrect to simply assume it exists?
Basically, no evidence = does not exist?
I agree.
Nor has it been alluded that the sword which impaled Kurse has special attributes. As far as the movie goes its just a sword.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I agree.Nor has it been alluded that the sword which impaled Kurse has special attributes. As far as the movie goes its just a sword.
A sword meant to kill Asgardians. Thus it means that it should work on Asgardians as a weapon meant to kill them would, otherwise what's the point?
Anyway, this is all irrelevant, as there is no stabbing that will happen here (Hulk is def not stabbing Kurse), so why even argue about it?
We have a single metric common to both that we can use for comparing durability relevant to this topic: Thor's punches.
And another metric for comparing how effective each characters punches are compared to each other: Thor's face.