Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Well surely Kurse aint beating Hela, but is Hela defeating Kurse?I mean this is purely H2H, no knifes for her.
Her physical strength seems to be considerably beyond Thor's (the fact that she can effortlessly choke-pin him with one hand before he even took any on-screen damage, speaks volumes of their strength difference, basically treating him like a child or a 90 lbs weakling) while having stupid high durability (his punches don't seem to bother her one bit), damage soak and healing (cuts heal instantly) and extreme levels of speed/agility/skill.
Everything Kurse could do, she did better even without her knives.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Pure h2h with no other powers and weapons? That's tough.Definitely not Hulk. Not Thor or Hela either. Thanos probably has the best shot but it's still questionable.
Kurse might just be the best scrapper in the MCU.
I disagree about Hela. She looked practically invincible and far stronger than Thor was (even moreso than Kurse was).
I mean as a metric: Both Hela and Kurse choked Thor. Thor had already taken a few hits vs Kurse, but he was able to somewhat struggle against it. Hela's choke practically had him completely helpless and he seemed like he was still at full strength (well at least we don't see him getting hit prior).
Kurse vs Thor
choke at (0:33)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJneSSYTZFo
Hela vs Thor
choke at (1:48)
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Her physical strength seems to be considerably beyond Thor's (the fact that she can effortlessly choke-pin him with one hand before he even took any on-screen damage, speaks volumes of their strength difference, basically treating him like a child or a 90 lbs weakling) while having stupid high durability (his punches don't seem to bother her one bit), damage soak and healing (cuts heal instantly) and extreme levels of speed/agility/skill.Everything Kurse could do, she did better even without her knives.
Yeah she was stronger than Thor.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I disagree about Hela. She looked practically invincible and far stronger than Thor was (even moreso than Kurse was).I mean as a metric: Both Hela and Kurse choked Thor. Thor had already taken a few hits vs Kurse, but he was able to somewhat struggle against it. Hela's choke practically had him completely helpless and he seemed like he was still at full strength (well at least we don't see him getting hit prior).
Kurse vs Thor
choke at (0:33)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJneSSYTZFo
Hela vs Thor
choke at (1:48)
Hela is more powerful in Asgard. Let's not forget that.
Also Thor's punches had less effect on Kurse than Hela. And Kurse hit Thor much further away than Hela ever did.
And Kurse could easily lift Thor up by his neck like a child if he wanted to. Thor is less than 1ton. That choke (lift by neck actually) comparison is faulty.
I look at how hard Thor gets hit and how effective are Thor's strikes against the two.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
H2H only:Hela wins. I mean Kurse tossed Mjolnir away, whilst Hela caught and crushed Mjolnir. Seems like a Significant difference to me.
Thanos without IG is a tough one to gauge. Will go for stalemate for now.
Hulk and Hulkbuster definitely lose Lmao
But if it was a plot device (or special circumstance) in why she was able to do that then we have to use other showings to prove strength.
Based on her striking Thor, she does not have the punching power to hurt Kurse significantly. I just don't see it. If we ignore her striking power shown (it didn't happen) and use the Mjolnir crushing feat as a basis of her punching power then she can hurt Kurse significantly
Put him in a hallway or corridor, and I will back any one of the Defenders. Defenders Hallway-Force is only matched by Cap Russo-Force. 😄
Seriously though, Hela and Thanos probably have the best shot at this. Surtur would go without saying because he can literally just, like, step on anyone who bugs him.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Kurse vs. Hela is an interesting matchup. Hela has better pure strength feats (crushing Mjolnir, choking Thor) but Thor was able to put up a better fight against Hela than against Kurse.
Meh he got his ass whooped by both. But if we want to get technical then Hela did more damage to him by taking out his eye.
Kurse was likely too durable for Thor to fight. But its not like he could hurt Hela either. Plus weve seen how even when she is stabbed through the torso it literally does nothing to her.
So im defo going with Hela.