Ares/Steppenwolf vs. MCU Hela/Kurse

Started by victreebelvictr15 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Ares can keep summoning lightning from the sky.
I don't understand.
Yoi don’t seem to understand anything.

How can he just spam it without tiring?

Originally posted by h1a8
Ares can keep summoning lightning from the sky.
I don't understand.

Being Immortal has no bearing on how long you can use an ability before getting tired or running out of energy.

Stop applying No Limit fallacies to characters you want to win and try actually providing proof for once in your life.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Being Immortal has no bearing on how long you can use an ability before getting tired or running out of energy.

Stop applying No Limit fallacies to characters you want to win and try actually providing proof for once in your life.

I honestly don’t think he is capable of doing this.

Kurse can summon infinite ass whoopins. Maybe more.

Why is it that Thor (who albeit being far more powerful lightning)supposedly can summon lightning non-stop while Ares can't when neither have shown either limits or ability to spam non-stop? A bit of double standard don't you think?

Originally posted by h1a8
What claim is that?

Are you trolling? It was in the very post I quoted.

Your claim that Ares can spam continuous Lightning.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Why is it that Thor (who albeit being far more powerful lightning)supposedly can summon lightning non-stop while Ares can't when neither have shown either limits or ability to spam non-stop? A bit of double standard don't you think?

Well, unlike H1 I don't think anyone has claimed Thor can spam lightning non-stop. However even if they did, Thor actually has feats of long-term lightning use that absolutely dwarfs Ares.

Like (just curious)
The only long time lightning usage I remember is the one in the Avengers which took a long charge time.
Unless of course you are referring to the bridge fight in Ragnarok, yeah he can spew non-stop lightning from his body but it's clearly not as powerful as the lightning he summons from the sky
I don't know which you were referring to
But yeah it would be dumb to compare Area's lightning usage to Thor's -, Thor's is superior in every c way

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Are you trolling? It was in the very post I quoted.

Your claim that Ares can spam continuous Lightning.

No!
There will be pauses inbetween each blast if he is summoning from the sky, like what he did to WW.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Being Immortal has no bearing on how long you can use an ability before getting tired or running out of energy.

Stop applying No Limit fallacies to characters you want to win and try actually providing proof for once in your life.

He draws energy from outside sources.
So what is the point?

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yoi don’t seem to understand anything.

How can he just spam it without tiring?

You have an iPhone with stupid apostrophe.
Anyway, why would he tire?
Could Hela tire?
If both can tire then what's the point?
How does that change anything?

Well, it changes due to the fact all characters have a certain stamina level, you have to play it like that.

FYI, I am using a computer.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Well, it changes due to the fact all characters have a certain stamina level, you have to play it like that.

FYI, I am using a computer.

But stamina is unknown.
He seems to be able to magically conjure up lightning as much as he wants. Same as Hela and her blades. Arguing that someone tires before someone else is stupid I think. It doesn't add to the debate.
I already stated that this first is at least a stalemate for Ares depending on how powerful Hela's regeneration is outside of Asgard. Ares can fly to avoid getting struck by the blades (or teleport), use wind to deflect them, or simply control them with his metal powers. Ares can absorb lightning for several seconds, which would have a shit ton of energy on it. He can also send those blades back at Hela.

I am not a argue it with you on who would win.

I am telling you that durability counts, even though you don’t know the stamina of these characters doesn’t mean that it doesn’t apply.

Originally posted by h1a8
No!
There will be pauses inbetween each blast if he is summoning from the sky, like what he did to WW.

He draws energy from outside sources.
So what is the point?

You have an iPhone with stupid apostrophe.
Anyway, why would he tire?
Could Hela tire?
If both can tire then what's the point?
How does that change anything?

Still waiting for you to prove that Ares can continue to fire lightning until either Hela is ko'd or dead.

Just cite evidence from some source online.

It isn’t that hard.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I am not a argue it with you on who would win.

I am telling you that durability counts, even though you don’t know the stamina of these characters doesn’t mean that it doesn’t apply.


It doesn't apply because it is unknown.
Here are a list of unknowns
1. Hela's durability against lightning attacks outside of Asgard
2. How many lightning blasts can Ares summon before tiring (which is stupid if that can happen).

Here are some facts.
Ares seems to casually summon lightning. He can at least do it many times.
Hela has been affected by lightning.
Hela is weaker outside of Asgard.
Ares can control metal.
Ares can fly and teleport.
Ares has wind powers.
Ares has extreme heat powers.

1. It can be estimated. She took one with ease, you can lead off with that.

2. I am not having an arguement on who would win. I am trying to tell you to cite evidence and to always include durability.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
1. It can be estimated. She took one with ease, you can lead off with that.

2. I am not having an arguement on who would win. I am trying to tell you to cite evidence and to always include durability.

1. Outside of Asgard? When? How?
2. Understood. I have. She was affected (not immune) while in Asgard. She’s weaker outside of Asgard.

Her being affected by the mother of all lightning blasts by Thor does not mean she would be equally affected by a blast from Ares. Thor>>>>Ares.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Outside of Asgard? When? How?
2. Understood. I have. She was affected (not immune) while in Asgard. She’s weaker outside of Asgard.
Yoi didn’t cite evidence, you are literally supposed to put what someone else said in quotes.

You could also show a website explaining this. Saying something is true isn’t citing evidence.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yoi didn’t cite evidence, you are literally supposed to put what someone else said in quotes.

You could also show a website explaining this. Saying something is true isn’t citing evidence.

In Ragnarok, Thor talks to Odin before he dies. Odin tells Thor, "she draws her strength from Asgard and once she gets there her powers will be limitless."

Also, after Thor kill all the fodder with his newly found lightning powers, the three watch as Hela slowly approaches. Thor states, "The longer Hela is on Asgard, the more powerful she grows."