Idk, man. I have DE Sidious above Valkorion at this point, (though on the same level/in the same tier), but it ultimately comes down to where Ziost puts Valkorion in relation to Sidious, as Elm said. If the Ziost feat is like ROTJ Sidious tier, then I think the case can be made that FP Valkorion has parity with DE Sidious.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Idk, man. I have DE Sidious above Valkorion at this point, (though on the same level/in the same tier), but it ultimately comes down to where Ziost puts Valkorion in relation to Sidious, as Elm said. If the Ziost feat is like ROTJ Sidious tier, then I think the case can be made that FP Valkorion has parity with DE Sidious.
A Force storm generated by wielding Dark Side energies>a Force sensitive who absorbed into himself the power of two planets? Alrighty, then. 💃
Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
So the accolades that list him as the best as well as superior feats don't count. Ok.
Accolades are useless in a versus thread if a character has shown more than enough on-screen to confirm or infirm those certain statements. I should have included accolades at the misunderstood context section. The blame falls surely on my shoulders.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Not sure why you think the most powerful quotes apply to Valkorion mmm
Not really. I usually dismiss such accolades with "x" being the strongest character that has ever lived. But it is self-evident that Bioware has taken another direction with their major characters. They clearly do not follow Lucas' vision of what Star Wars should be like.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Not sure why you think the most powerful quotes apply to Valkorion mmm
Valkorion may have abandoned the sith but he was still a sith at one point, it says Sidious was more powerful than every sith, not specifically when they were a sith if that makes sense. Valk isn't bad by any means but I hold him below base ROTS-ROTJ Sidious, DE Sidious demolishes him.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Not really. I usually dismiss such accolades with "x" being the strongest character that has ever lived. But it is self-evident that Bioware has taken another direction with their major characters. They clearly do not follow Lucas' vision of what Star Wars should be like.
Ain't that the truth. >.> They really went off the rails....I mean vanilla TOR is fine, but everything after that...yeah..
Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Valkorion may have abandoned the sith but he was still a sith at one point, it says Sidious was more powerful than every sith, not specifically when they were a sith if that makes sense. Valk isn't bad by any means but I hold him below base ROTS-ROTJ Sidious, DE Sidious demolishes him.
No, that makes no sense. Sidious’ most powerful quotes don’t retroactively apply to people who were once Sith but then stopped being Sith, because Valkorion literally isn’t a Sith Lord. If Sidious is “the most powerful Sith Lord ever,” it only applies to people who are Sith Lords, which Valkorion isn’t. You’d be hard-pressed to somehow prove that the quotes retroactively apply to Valkorion, and I think Occam’s Razor is on my side here: you’re deriving more from the quotes than what’s actually being stated.