Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
No when he stuck his swords in the helmet's eyeholes and got thrown into a fence and got impaled on it
He was standing on his shoulders with his feet firmly planted. Your statement made it seem like DP was actually trying to avoid Juggs and got tagged anyway. If DP were trying to not get touched and Juggs got him anyway then I would agree.
Also, I just watched the scene again and it looks like Juggernaut had a split lip towards the end of the fight:
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Originally posted by KingD19
They even said Charles was the reason Juggernaut had his helmet. So unless someone could get it off, TP doesnt even matter.And the only people who know are Cain, Charles and Russell.
Well they have never actually done the whole -Have to Get his Helmet Off- thing in the movies yet.
So yeah they could have played on that and made him more invulnerable. Im with h1a8 here, either do the character justice or dont include him.
Better to add a telepath to the team than to neuter Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well they have never actually done the whole -Have to Get his Helmet Off- thing in the movies yet.So yeah they could have played on that and made him more invulnerable. Im with h1a8 here, either do the character justice or dont include him.
Better to add a telepath to the team than to neuter Juggernaut.
The conversation with Russell confirms thats the case, though.
"So you wear that helmet because your brother keeps tryin to get into your head?"
"Yeah but he can't walk no more so it kinda evens out."
Also the fight went almost 100% how an actual Juggernaut/Colossus fight usually goes. Colossus is the underdog, but does decently and gets a few highlight moments while Cain dominates a majority of the time. And then the team gets involved and gets a PIS win through bfr or some other nonsense.
In this case it was Cain getting electrocuted, which didn't hurt him but did make his muscles spazz for a while so he couldn't get out of the pool. Just like other fights, like with Nimrod where he couldn't hurt Cain, so he severed the neural pathways from his brain to his body and immobilized him. Overall Cain wasn't as powerful as I'd like, especially after the bridge punch, but they did a pretty faithful representation.
Originally posted by KingD19
The conversation with Russell confirms thats the case, though."So you wear that helmet because your brother keeps tryin to get into your head?"
"Yeah but he can't walk no more so it kinda evens out."
Also the fight went almost 100% how an actual Juggernaut/Colossus fight usually goes. Colossus is the underdog, but does decently and gets a few highlight moments while Cain dominates a majority of the time. And then the team gets involved and gets a PIS win through bfr or some other nonsense.
In this case it was Cain getting electrocuted, which didn't hurt him but did make his muscles spazz for a while so he couldn't get out of the pool. Just like other fights, like with Nimrod where he couldn't hurt Cain, so he severed the neural pathways from his brain to his body and immobilized him. Overall Cain wasn't as powerful as I'd like, especially after the bridge punch, but they did a pretty faithful representation.
Ah forgot that line.
Yeah I thought the Colossus vs Juggernaut was fine. And thought Juggernaut overall was fine. But still a far cry from how he should be.
Originally posted by juggerman
They could've BFR'd Juggernaut too. Plus I'm pretty sure he's a mutant in the film so those collars could have been a way to stop him.
No mention of him being a mutant like in X3. And how would they have actually bfr'd him? Vanisher could have done it if he didn't die. But no one ekse could have forcibly removed him.
Originally posted by KingD19
No mention of him being a mutant like in X3. And how would they have actually bfr'd him? Vanisher could have done it if he didn't die. But no one ekse could have forcibly removed him.
He was in the mutant jail and he couldn't escape until Russell turned off the mutant dampener. They may not have said it outright but it did look like he was.
As for removal, they could have lured him somewhere that couldn't sustain his weight like a frozen lake or tricked him into running off a bridge or something. There are many ways to remove Juggernaut for an long enough time to deal with other things. Maybe Cable could use his time travel thing to jump Juggernaut into the stone age. Just spit ballin here