Originally posted by relentless1In what specific sense was she a threat to Sidious? Sidious also thought Ventress was a threat, and Maul of all people a "rival" - that does not speak much for their chances in a fight against him.
Talzin was a threat to Sidious; said so by the man himself, so if she's anywhere in his league then shes above Snokes league for sure as far as combat goes
Originally posted by quanchi112Talzin lost despite having Maul's support, and Sidious having the support of a weakened Dooku. All Grievous did was deal the final blow. Sidious having feminine characteristics, however true this is, does not make him a woman, by definition.
It ended up being a three on one advantage and to be fair Sidious has feminine characteristics.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEverMaul left and she lost his support so despite a 2-1 advantage grievous was still required for the kill stroke.
Talzin lost despite having Maul's support, and Sidious having the support of a weakened Dooku. All Grievous did was deal the final blow. Sidious having feminine characteristics, however true this is, does not make him a woman, by definition.
I know he is an older metro sexual.
Originally posted by quanchi112By that point, Talzin had already lost. Killing her was merely a formality. She forced Maul's departure in order to spare him from the fate that awaited her.
Maul left and she lost his support so despite a 2-1 advantage grievous was still required for the kill stroke.I know he is an older metro sexual.
What traditionally feminine interests and behaviours does Sheev exhibit?
Originally posted by BestDebaterEverA two to one advantage, definitely. She cannot beat both Dooku and Sidious. When maul left her fate was sealed.
By that point, Talzin had already lost. Killing her was merely a formality. She forced Maul's departure in order to spare him from the fate that awaited her.What traditionally feminine interests and behaviours does Sheev exhibit?
Duplicity, cowardice, poor body posture. 😏
Originally posted by quanchi112While that much is true, her fate was sealed even before Maul left her side. If it was not, she would see no reason to force Maul's departure; instead he would remain by her side and they would defeat their opponents together. Grievous by this point was out of the picture, as well, so he is not a reason (at this point) for Maul to leave, when he is presumably dead or incapacitated.
A two to one advantage, definitely. She cannot beat both Dooku and Sidious. When maul left her fate was sealed.Duplicity, cowardice, poor body posture. 😏
However, on your final point, I am forced to agree with you.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEverPoint is Sidious alone did not defeat her. Yes, he outthought her. That was not point. 3-1 is what killed her though. I do not think she would survive against the two but fact is Grievous still killed her.
While that much is true, her fate was sealed even before Maul left her side. If it was not, she would see no reason to force Maul's departure; instead he would remain by her side and they would defeat their opponents together. Grievous by this point was out of the picture, as well, so he is not a reason (at this point) for Maul to leave, when he is presumably dead or incapacitated.However, on your final point, I am forced to agree with you.