JL Superman runs the MCU/FOX gauntlet
Superman has standard morals
Warmup: Erik Selvig with an Asgardian blade
Round 1: Hulkbuster, IW Warmachine, Juggernaut, Riot
Round 2: Vision, Scarlet Witch, Cull Obsidian, Ghost Rider
Round 3: Bleeding Edge Iron Man, Hulk, Doctor Strange
Round 4: Kurse, Magneto, Professor Xavier (morals off)
Round 5: Hela, Thor (Stormbreaker), Apocalypse
Round 6: Phoenix (Composite), Legion (Season 2), Shadow King
Boss: Silver Surfer
I don't see any way Supes takes Silver Surfer. The dude created an explosion that destroyed a world-ending entity in Galactus and still didn't die.
He goes down as early as 4 if Xavier can mind-freeze him, but obviously Supes has the speed to potentially one-shot both Erik and Charles, and I think he can eventually beat down Kurse for a win.
I honestly see Round 5 being the main event in the fight card here, with the two Asgardians and the mutant coming out victorious:
- Ridiculous regen, sword spamming, power, and fighting skill with Hela
- Thor is nigh-invulnerable and has the most powerful weapon we've seen in any superhero universe so far.
- Apoc has his shields and matter manipulation on a massive scale as well as a counter to superspeed.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
I don't see any way Supes takes Silver Surfer. The dude created an explosion that destroyed a world-ending entity in Galactus and still didn't die.He goes down as early as 4 if Xavier can mind-freeze him, but obviously Supes has the speed to potentially one-shot both Erik and Charles, and I think he can eventually beat down Kurse for a win.
I honestly see Round 5 being the main event in the fight card here, with the two Asgardians and the mutant coming out victorious:
- Ridiculous regen, sword spamming, power, and fighting skill with Hela
- Thor is nigh-invulnerable and has the most powerful weapon we've seen in any superhero universe so far.
- Apoc has his shields and matter manipulation on a massive scale as well as a counter to superspeed.
Yeah, things start becoming challenging in round 4, IMO. Because, beyond everything else you mentioned, these two gentlemen bring A LOT of hax to the table in round 6:
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, things start becoming challenging in round 4, IMO. Because, beyond everything else you mentioned, these two gentlemen bring A LOT of hax to the table in round 6:
I haven't seen but heard enough about Legion to know that David and Shadow King have some pretty uncanny 😮💨 feats at their disposal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Stops at 1, hard.
Quan with a bold prediction once more.
Re: JL Superman runs the MCU/FOX gauntlet
Originally posted by carthage
Warmup: Erik Selvig with an Asgardian blade
Superman gets stomped.
Round 1: Hulkbuster, IW Warmachine, Juggernaut, Riot
A bunch of characters slower, frailer, and weaker than him. Stomps.
Round 2: Vision, Scarlet Witch, Cull Obsidian, Ghost Rider
Stomps I think, though I don't know much about Ghost Rider.
Round 3: Bleeding Edge Iron Man, Hulk, Doctor Strange
The only real threat is Doctor Strange if Clark doesn't take him out of the threat immediately, but he easily could do so, and he'd one-shot him.
Round 4: Kurse, Magneto, Professor Xavier (morals off)
A bloodlusted Xavier could easily take Clark out by feats. If Superman were similarly bloodlusted he would roll through them, but morals are on, and while Clark has no compunctions about taking enemies out quickly as seen with the terrorist at the start of BvS, he might hesitate against a cripple. He is fast enough to KO Xavier before X can process a thought assuming Xavier doesn't have superhuman thought speed like in the comics (not sure if film version ever demonstrated anything of the sort). I can totally see why people would say he stops here.
Round 5: Hela, Thor (Stormbreaker), Apocalypse
Hela is frankly a non-factor. My knowledge on Apoc is a little incomplete, but he was getting worked by Quicksilver who is similarly beyond Apoc's speed, only Clark hits much harder and is not so frail. The little trick he did with the tendril wouldn't affect Clark at all.
Which brings us to Thor. Sorry friends, but Superman is so fast Thor and friends will be a statue. Would a Stormbreaker throw like the one at the end of IW be capable of killing Superman? Sure, absolutely. Will it ever connect? Not in a million years. And given Superman's feats like easily withstanding pressure that was displacing millions of tons of water, punching through the World Engine, and withstanding and separating the planet-terraforming Motherboxes, a super speed beatdown will take Thor down.
Round 6: Phoenix (Composite), Legion (Season 2), Shadow King
I know pretty much nothing about Legion or Shadow King so I can't comment on the round as a whole. Phoenix would get her daylights punched out though.
Boss: Silver Surfer
Silver Surfer stomps. He might honestly be the most powerful film incarnation of a comic character, barring maybe Reeves Superman. He could kill everyone in this thread with a single attack at the same time.
Originally posted by John Murdoch
I don't see any way Supes takes Silver Surfer. The dude created an explosion that destroyed a world-ending entity in Galactus and still didn't die.
This always came off like horrible writing. The entity that GAVE him the power isn't powerful enough to survive, but Surfer is powerful enough to survive?
It'd be one thing if Galactus took most of the explosion and Surfer escaped and only got hit with a small portion, but I don't think that is what went down.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Who is more powerful than Surfer?
Ya, Surfer is top dog here for sure, and - as you said Neme - the most powerful comic book character adapted to the silver screen thus far barring the mentioned Reeves/Routh Supes and outliers like Metro Man.
- superspeed
- intangibility
- ability to revive and heal others
- energy projection that can wipe out a being of Galactus' size
Here's a question: how does Supes stack up to Vision these days? Can round 2 be a challenge if Vision can hold up Supes until Wanda or Ghost Rider gets a hold of him? Keep in mind, I know nothing of the AoS/MCU Ghost Rider.