If God was actually real, would he have any right to...

Started by riv66725 pages

If God was actually real, would he have any right to...

...come to earth and tell us all how to live our lives?
Just bored/wondering.

No.

I was hoping for a little more, but, i figured that WOULD be the answer. 😛

Re: If God was actually real, would he have any right to...

Originally posted by riv6672
...come to earth and tell us all how to live our lives?
Just bored/wondering.

To "Tell" us absolutely.

To FORCE us absolutely not.

There can be no true love or worship without choice.

Yeah, by tell i meant force.

Does a lucid dreamer have the right to tell the peeps e's dreaming up how to live?

You tell me me, Scagliotti.

Scagliotti the actress? I don't quite get the reference, but I presume she played a dreamer with a decision to make? Sounds like I missed a good episode of something.

In any event: the dreamer can do whatever he/she wants with that part of him/herself appearing as the dream.

Thats nice and all, i’m glad you’re getting a chance to wax poetic, as this forum’s pretty much dead, you just arent answering my question worth shit.
No worries though, wax on.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
To "Tell" us absolutely.

To FORCE us absolutely not.

There can be no true love or worship without choice.

Well see you actually don't have a choice, you're supposed to worship and love it and only it lol. Choice does not enter into the equation, the 10 commandments aren't merely just helpful suggestions from this thing.

I guess He could, you know He is omnipotent and all.

Though, He offers eternal life, we have the CHOICE to take it or not.

We have a choice in the same way you would have a choice if a mugger put a gun to your head and said if you don't give him your wallet he will pull the trigger.

Also technically you get eternal life either way...it's not like the souls in hell die of old age.

Not really, it is more like if someone offers you a gift, but you may be too stubborn to except it.

It is the person who doesn't except the gift's fault if they go to hell.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Not really, it is more like if someone offers you a gift, but you may be too stubborn to except it.

It is the person who doesn't except the gift's fault if they go to hell.

Your example would be more accurate if someone offered you a gift only on the condition you worship them and only them.

https://www.gotquestions.org/church-heaven.html

No worship is enough to reach Heaven.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
https://www.gotquestions.org/church-heaven.html

No worship is enough to reach Heaven.

Actually no your link does not say this. What this is saying is that going to church isn't a requirement to get into heaven.

It also gives the following bible quote: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life”

This would mean anyone who is agnostic or an atheist would be denied this "eternal life". It also means that people who follow different religions also will be denied. This means you could live a good life, be a good person, do many good deeds, but still be denied if you don't believe. Isn't that evil?

Originally posted by Surtur
Actually no your link does not say this. What this is saying is that going to church isn't a requirement to get into heaven.

It also gives the following bible quote: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life”

This would mean anyone who is agnostic or an atheist would be denied this "eternal life". It also means that people who follow different religions also will be denied. This means you could live a good life, be a good person, do many good deeds, but still be denied if you don't believe. Isn't that evil?

Yes, it is.

No person is perfect, none have made no sins other than Jesus.

Being an athiest will indeed lend you a spot in hell, you must believe, you don't just get in heaven for being a good person.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yes, it is.

No person is perfect, none have made no sins other than Jesus.

Being an athiest will indeed lend you a spot in hell, you must believe, you don't just get in heaven for being a good person.

Well like I said, that is quite evil.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well like I said, that is quite evil.
I wouldn't say so, if God was evil, than why did He send his only son, who He loved, to an extremely painful death on the cross to give us the chance to go to Heaven?

That just proves that God isn't a Democrat. Heaven Has Borders and enforces their Immigration Laws.

You Don't Agree with that SURT!?