Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
I love the ROTS novel depiction of the duel. It actually made Obi Wan seem like a threat to Dooku, especially with his use of soresu, where as in the movie he essentially just embarrasses himself.
The novel does a lot of that with Kenobi. His unarmed fight with Grievous is more in favor of him than the cyborg.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Wait, on that note, was RoTS ever recut from the theatrical release? Like a directors cut or an extended edition or anything?
I know the original cut was over 4 hours long which from the sounds of it, honestly would've benefited the film.
The original cut no doubt exists, just hasn't been released.
Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
I love the ROTS novel depiction of the duel. It actually made Obi Wan seem like a threat to Dooku, especially with his use of soresu, where as in the movie he essentially just embarrasses himself.
Originally posted by RealistRacism
So a confused Dooku retreats after being tricked, and still dominates? Nice.
OBI-WAN and ANAKIN charge COUNT DOOKU. A great sword fight ensues.
- it's what we seen in the movie; they charged at Dooku, he did well in defencing himself, but was forcing back
DOOKU lunges at the JEDI and they fall back . . .
COUNT DOOKU: (continuing) Your moves are clumsy, Kenobi . . . too predictable. You'll have to do better.
As the battle proceeds, OBI-WAN and COUNT DOOKU are tired. ANAKIN is stronger as he becomes angry.(...)
- Dooku charges at them, and they fall back, which might suggest, that they started pretending. Dooku considers Kenobi as clumsy, which is another implemention, that they were were faking.
But it shouldn't be treat as a canon, since it was deleted.
Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
I love the ROTS novel depiction of the duel. It actually made Obi Wan seem like a threat to Dooku, especially with his use of soresu, where as in the movie he essentially just embarrasses himself.
Tbh, this fight in Stover's version is much more similar to their final fight in TCW. Dooku's Force powers aren't much of a factor, an he defeats Kenobi with a physcial attacks, like he almost did in TCW.
And Kenobi's Soresu against Dooku is overated in that novel as well: it wasn't lack of Dooku's skill to break Kenobi's defenses, it was lack if time, as Skywalker was rejoing fight very quickly. And it would be nearly impossible to overcame Kenobi's masterful Soresu, while defending against Skywalker's masterful Djem So.
Originally posted by McP
And Kenobi's Soresu against Dooku is overated in that novel as well: it wasn't lack of Dooku's skill to break Kenobi's defenses, it was lack if time, as Skywalker was rejoing fight very quickly. And it would be nearly impossible to overcame Kenobi's masterful Soresu, while defending against Skywalker's masterful Djem So.
This is actually true. We've never gotten to see an extended amount of time where Dooku's been able to duel Kenobi without Anakin breathing down his neck with Djem So.
Many say Dooku could eventually get around Kenobi's defenses although I'm not sure if he'd tire out before hand because it'd take a VERY long time.
Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Many say Dooku could eventually get around Kenobi's defenses although I'm not sure if he'd tire out before hand because it'd take a VERY long time.
Well, Dooku's stamina is a bit underrated as well. He's loosing it much faster, when he's forced to meet a stronger opponent head to head. Due to his passive style, Obi-Wan wont be able to force Dooku to anyghtin. In that way, Makashi is perhaps the best form, for saving energy. It's also somwhow confirmed in that deleted part of ROTS script:
As the battle proceeds, OBI-WAN and COUNT DOOKU are tired.
Dooku is just that kind of enemy, who's negating all of Kenobi's strong points. His mastery over Makashi will let him to save more energy, his superiority in the Force will be helpful in that area as well. His tactical, analytical mind will also helps him against Kenobi, as Kenobi is very often to out smart his enemies.