Darth Vader vs. Lady Sif

Started by Galan0074 pages

Vader actually did force-choke Xizor from half the galaxy away in Legends(Xizor was on Tatooine and Vader was near Coruscant.) He also recently hurled an AT-ST across the battlefield like it was a weightless trinket in canon.

...On top of everything else already mentioned.

Yeah, I knew you'd mention that feat.

Nothing stops Vader from using Force grip here. And Sif's only ranged attack is the sword throw --- at 0.5 km distance, Vader can easily handle it. Any Vader.

And which one we're supposed to use here? Oh, right...

Originally posted by carthage
Vader is composite with Canon/Legends feats

Here comes Zop to play Devil's Advocate in favor of Sif :
A) Force choke isn't a guaranteed win. (Asgardians have been shown not needing air to survive)
B) Asgardian physiology isn't the same as a mortal beings. (Rage had some scans stating this)
C) She's a War Goddess with hundreds of years of practice.
D) She's among the stronger Asgardian females physically. (handbook says something like 35 tons minimum)

So he's not force choking or manhandling her easily (if at all) and she's definitely strong enough to destroy him when it gets up close and physical.

Originally posted by zopzop
Here comes Zop to play Devil's Advocate in favor of Sif :

Good luck, you're gonna need it 😄

Originally posted by zopzop
A) Force choke isn't a guaranteed win. (Asgardians have been shown not needing air to survive)

Any examples?

Aside from Odinforce Thor, I mean.

Originally posted by zopzop
So he's not force choking or manhandling her easily (if at all)
Based on?

Originally posted by Galan007
Based on?

Based on the fact that she's a centuries old immortal magical brick (more or less).

Let me ask this a different way...

What showings does she have that make you think she'd be resistant/immune to Vader's TK? Not saying you're wrong; I'm just legitimately curious if there's anything at all...

Originally posted by Galan007
Let me ask this a different way...

What showings does she have that make you think she'd be resistant/immune to Vader's TK?


She won't be immune to it. She can definitely resist it because of her superhuman strength, durability, and stamina.

She took multiple stabbings from Thor over the centuries. I'd say her durability is up there.

Do you know how Rage.of.Olympus came to be?

He was Lady Sif once.

Then a wild Rancor ate her and shat out Rage we know today.

Originally posted by zopzop
She won't be immune to it. She can definitely resist it because of her superhuman strength, durability, and stamina.
So Vader might have to exert himself a little more than normal in order to kill her, is what you're saying?

I can live with that. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
So Vader might have to exert himself a little more than normal in order to kill her, is what you're saying?

I can live with that. 👆

Gamorreans and Rancors are superhuman, too. Just saying.

Also, what's stopping Vader from using Sif's own sword against her? Or force-freezing her long enough for his lightsaber throw to do the job?

Or just chucking her into space.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or just chucking her into space.....

She has gear that let's her teleport.

Yes, Classic Sif had an enchanted sword that lets her teleport. Sif can also survive in space. Her BFRing Vader is a lot more likely than the opposite. Under some writers like Jurgens and Lee, she could teleport because of her innate powers.

This says Legends Vader. I’m ignorant to all of his abilities despite reading a shit load of SW comics. Apparently, the novels get really crazy.

An amalgam of that would be really beastly. As far as Vader is concerned, Sif is by far the physically strongest being he has ever encountered, durability as well, she could casually one-shot him, but force TK is formidable in legends. I remember Sidious creating planetary force storms. Sif can’t compete with that unless she has full gear like her the Norn stones she use to rock or something random.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, Classic Sif had an enchanted sword that lets her teleport. Sif can also survive in space. Her BFRing Vader is a lot more likely than the opposite. Under some writers like Jurgens and Lee, she could teleport because of her innate powers.

This says Legends Vader. I’m ignorant to all of his abilities despite reading a shit load of SW comics. Apparently, the novels get really crazy.

An amalgam of that would be really beastly. As far as Vader is concerned, Sif is by far the physically strongest being he has ever encountered, durability as well, she could casually one-shot him, but force TK is formidable in legends. I remember Sidious creating planetary force storms. Sif can’t compete with that unless she has full gear like her the Norn stones she use to rock or something random.

Sif should be capable of killing a hoard of Rancors. Hell, she could probably rip apart a Star Destroyer (Forget the class 50 rating, them things are like parley: more of a guideline.)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, Classic Sif had an enchanted sword that lets her teleport. Sif can also survive in space. Her BFRing Vader is a lot more likely than the opposite. Under some writers like Jurgens and Lee, she could teleport because of her innate powers.

This says Legends Vader. I’m ignorant to all of his abilities despite reading a shit load of SW comics. Apparently, the novels get really crazy.

An amalgam of that would be really beastly. As far as Vader is concerned, Sif is by far the physically strongest being he has ever encountered, durability as well, she could casually one-shot him, but force TK is formidable in legends. I remember Sidious creating planetary force storms. Sif can’t compete with that unless she has full gear like her the Norn stones she use to rock or something random.

How do you think Sif would do against Vader's TK?

If she can teleport, he'd be cut in half before he can even try it.

Sif will make Grand Moff Tarkin's crushing defeat (Best issue ever) look like nothing.

Originally posted by cdtm
If she can teleport, he'd be cut in half before he can even try it.
How's she going to hit him faster than he can react? He has reaction feats that far outshine hers in addition to the precog.

Such as?