Originally posted by riv6672
Well, it IS Chambers from the first movie (hence the pic 😛 ).As for your technique onservation, the question then becomes, does Clubber have that? He himself was beat the same way.
Only after Rocky got retrained by Apollo. Rocky was originally a slugger. Chambers is a slugger.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Only after Rocky got retrained by Apollo. Rocky was originally a slugger. Chambers is a slugger.
Originally posted by riv6672
That's what i meant.
Both Chambers and Clubber are sluggers, both were beat by superior technique.
You intimated Clubber would beat Chambers w. superior technique, so i asked, does Clubber actually have that.
No, I said Rocky and Chambers were sluggers. No proof that Lang is a slugger, unless you use bad choreography as the gauge.
Lang beat Rocky the first time, you can attribute that to him outboxing Rocky or outslugging him. Either way, Lang has a decent win as a feat. Who has Chambers ever deafeated of note?
I guess we watched different ROCKY IIIs, in regards to Clubber (very telling nickname) Lang’s fighting style. I have never seen him debated as a finesse fighter, for good reason.
Lang has a decent win as a feat. Who has Chambers ever deafeated of note?
No proof that Lang is a slugger, unless you use bad choreography as the gauge.
Clubber is a slugger:
And for the record, the choreography in all the Rocky movies is just fine.
Originally posted by riv6672
Good choreography, bad choreography; you cant just dismiss shit because you dont like the way it looks.Clubber is a slugger:
And for the record, the choreography in all the Rocky movies is just fine.
I like how he punches guys when they're down. But yeah Clubber pretty much only throws haymakers
Originally posted by riv6672
Good choreography, bad choreography; you cant just dismiss shit because you dont like the way it looks.Clubber is a slugger:
And for the record, the choreography in all the Rocky movies is just fine.
If you're going to base this on choreography then all the boxers in the first 5 Rocky movies will be sluggers, including Apollo Creed.
Rocky 3 was made in 1982. Undisputed in 2002. That's a 20 yr. difference in fight choreography improvement.
YOU are the one that brought up choreography as if it somehow didnt make Clubber a slugger.
I’M the one that said you cant just dismss shit because you dont like the way it looks.
Its pretty obvious you have no real opinion here/are talking out out your ass, so, unless someone comes in who actually knows how to debate a topic, understands what feats and stats are and how they're compared, i’m sure not engaging you in further dumbass conversation.
Thanks for replying of course. 🙂
the whole point of Rocky 3 is to differentiate between a skilled boxer and a brawler. Clubber was a brawler which is why he ended up getting beat in the end, Rocky evolved and became a polished fighter using technique to beat a guy who was much stronger than he was.
Apollo to Rocky: "you fight great, but im a great fighter"
Apollo most certainly was a skilled boxer whatever you may think the choreography shows, the reason he may have seemed like a brawler is because his character was sucked into playing Rockys game after he lost his composure when Rocky turned out to actually be a tough challenge.
context matters guys.
PS: this is why Rocky 3 is my favourite of the series; Rocky goes through the most significant character arc in this film aside from the first one but it manifests in a physical way; he got far with his brawler style but in order to become great he had to learn how to box for real and along the way find out what hes made of and WHY he wants to be a fighter in the first place
^^^yeah, you’re spot on. Thanks for posting that.
PS: this is why Rocky 3 is my favourite of the series; Rocky goes through the most significant character arc in this film aside from the first one but it manifests in a physical way; he got far with his brawler style but in order to become great he had to learn how to box for real and along the way find out what hes made of and WHY he wants to be a fighter in the first place
Originally posted by riv6672
YOU are the one that brought up choreography as if it somehow didnt make Clubber a slugger.I’M the one that said you cant just dismss shit because you dont like the way it looks.
Its pretty obvious you have no real opinion here/are talking out out your ass, so, unless someone comes in who actually knows how to debate a topic, understands what feats and stats are and how they're compared, i’m sure not engaging you in further dumbass conversation.
Thanks for replying of course. 🙂
Wow, where did that @ssholery come from? I wonder who's sock you are...