Originally posted by DarthCaedus77No, by feats he is not better. In no way is he better but the logic is terrible. If Gandalf has better feats than Sauron because of lack of screen time that does not mean he suddenly becomes more powerful because the implications and portrayal says otherwise.
By feats Gridelwald is better. The end.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, by feats he is not better. In no way is he better but the logic is terrible. If Gandalf has better feats than Sauron because of lack of screen time that does not mean he suddenly becomes more powerful because the implications and portrayal says otherwise.
Except in this case there is direct scaling to put Grindelwald above Voldemort. So yeah feats do matter and most of the statements can be retconned.
Originally posted by HP LegendSuch as? They do but so do direct statements, creator official statements, and the fact he has the most powerful wand in existence at his behest.
Except in this case there is direct scaling to put Grindelwald above Voldemort. So yeah feats do matter and most of the statements can be retconned.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as? They do but so do direct statements, creator official statements, and the fact he has the most powerful wand in existence at his behest.
1. Prime Dumbledore>=Gfrindelwald>Old Dumbledore>Voldemort
2. Creator statements don't mean crap especialy since nearly all of them can be retconned or explained in some way. Basically loopholes.
2. Most powerful Wand in existence? You mean the one he can't wield properly? Lmao. He outright stated himself his normal wand ios just as good.
Originally posted by HP Legend1. Prove that Dumbledore is in his prime. Also quit ignoring that Gellert has the most powerful wand and loses. Voldemort is up against that wand in the hands of Dumbledore yet dictates the tempo and looks more impressive against Dumbledore on screen.
1. Prime Dumbledore>=Gfrindelwald>Old Dumbledore>Voldemort2. Creator statements don't mean crap especialy since nearly all of them can be retconned or explained in some way. Basically loopholes.
2. Most powerful Wand in existence? You mean the one he can't wield properly? Lmao. He outright stated himself his normal wand ios just as good.
2. So creator statements matter until they are retconned. If they have not been you go with them not against them. The films make it clear Voldemort is the most powerful and greatest dark wizard of all time not Gellert.
3. Films support it is the most powerful. The wand resisted him. Did you watch the film?
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Prove that Dumbledore is in his prime. Also quit ignoring that Gellert has the most powerful wand and loses. Voldemort is up against that wand in the hands of Dumbledore yet dictates the tempo and looks more impressive against Dumbledore on screen.2. So creator statements matter until they are retconned. If they have not been you go with them not against them. The films make it clear Voldemort is the most powerful and greatest dark wizard of all time not Gellert.
3. Films support it is the most powerful. The wand resisted him. Did you watch the film?
1. It's mentioned multiple times throughout HBP Dumbledore is no longer in his prime.
2. All the statements say that Grindelwald=Dumbledore regardless of The Elder Wand. It being the most powerful wand doesn't mean shit because the amount of satrength it gives it's owner is unquantifiable. However we do have statements saying that regardless of The Wand Grindelwald=Prime Dumbledore.
3. All the statements have loopholes in them or aren't from The Word of God (JK Rowling) so they aren't official sources on the matter. Especially given some of the contradictions in the fact files you bring up.
4. Yeah the films say The Wand resisted Voldemort lmao. You brought up Voldemort having The Elder Wand in DH and I noted it resisted him. I have watched the films.
Also write your next reply in the other thread because I don't want to keep having to forum hop.