Was the spirit of Exar Kun amped?

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Was his spirit amped beyond his normal power?

Was the spirit of Exar Kun amped?

So when Exar created his spirit, he used:

1. His own power
2. Sith Sorcery
3. The entire race and life force of the Massassi
4. The Dark Side of Yavin 4 focused and amplified to him

So basically, for the 10 or so seconds he had the excess power, he was massively amped when he specifically used this power to create the spirit. So my question is, would this, or would this not be considered an amped spirit outside the normal power of Exar Kun?

Here is the act itself:
https://imgur.com/KkoyqU3
https://imgur.com/5zC55QB

Here are statements explaining it:

https://imgur.com/0zqfrE2

https://imgur.com/GS66kEA

https://imgur.com/tHbSKem

https://imgur.com/EKVXQJ8

https://imgur.com/k1g8U0d

https://imgur.com/qSI7HGV

Explains the focal points of power, along with absorbing the Massassi:
https://imgur.com/e3qCLyh
https://imgur.com/Bzn5TIm

Explains the purpose of the Pyramids:

https://imgur.com/TpbkhGN

https://imgur.com/v2uKXw7

https://imgur.com/MH2560B

The planet before the Focusing Pyramids:
https://imgur.com/qWSct1X

After:
https://imgur.com/3eVg0d5
https://imgur.com/U583CCo

Inside the temple that uses the same sort of energy Kun used in his ritual, before the focusing pyramids were built:
https://imgur.com/kJk0bCs
https://imgur.com/AWuSpNq

During Luke's time, Yavin is still strong in the Darkside
https://imgur.com/aHuP6lI
https://imgur.com/e57KGFz

300 Years after Kun's death:

Before the Emperor’s apparent demise, the Empire’s greatest non-Force-sensitive combatants were selected for the Imperial Guard to serve and defend the Emperor himself. But being selected and developing into a guardsman were two different matters entirely. The Emperor chose worlds strong in the dark side for his academies–locations where his influence was strongest, where he could form a bond with his would-be guardsmen. In these academies, the candidates would undergo a relentless, merciless training regimen that included regularly scheduled battles to the death. Regardless of what kind of person entered an Imperial Guard academy, if they survived they would emerge as a honed-to-perfection killing machine molded to the Emperor’s will.

http://www.swtor-spy.com/codex/imperial-guard-academy/162442/

From the journal of Jedi Master Arlo Grennen during his investigation into the dark side’s influence on Yavin 4: “Information on Yavin 4 has not been easy to come by, but I have scoured the libraries of Tython and what I have discovered is fascinating. “The first corruption of Yavin’s fourth moon by the dark side that we know of corresponds with the arrival of Dark Lord Naga Sadow some fourteen hundred years ago. I’m not entirely sure whether Sadow was drawn here by the dark side or if he himself planted the first seed of its presence. That’s one of the many things I hope to learn while I’m here. “Sadow was a gifted alchemist who turned his Massassi followers into powerful, violent animals who worshipped and served Sadow. The Massassi built massive temples for Sadow where they sacrificed their own in his honor. Sadow was even powerful enough to stave off the inevitable. He placed himself in a near-death slumber, which he remained in for hundreds of years, waiting until someone would come to take his place….”

From the journal of Jedi Master Arlo Grennen during his investigation into the dark side’s influence on Yavin 4: “There was a time when Freedon Nadd was only known as an impetuous Padawan who murdered his well-regarded master and then fled to parts unknown. But we now know that Nadd fled here, to Yavin 4, thirsty for insight into the dark side. Even now I can feel the corrupting power he must have felt in the halls of these temples. Nadd’s arrival reawakened Naga Sadow, who took Nadd as his apprentice. When Nadd emerged from his training, he destroyed Sadow and took his place as Dark Lord of the Sith. “As far as we’re aware, Freedon Nadd never physically returned to the halls of Naga Sadow’s temples, but he wasn’t entirely finished with the place either. Centuries after his own demise, he would influence another Jedi in training to repeat Yavin 4’s dark cycle….”

From the journal of Jedi Master Arlo Grennen during his investigation into the dark side’s influence on Yavin 4: “Just as Naga Sadow trained his eventual replacement, so did Freedon Nadd’s spirit find a powerful apprentice in Exar Kun. And just as Nadd killed his lord Sadow, Kun destroyed Nadd’s spirit here on Yavin 4. These notable deaths likely served to further imbue the moon’s temples with dark power, further fueling the barbaric Massassi–as well as the succession of Dark Lords who would later reside here. “I think Kun saw what Naga Sadow had accomplished here with Sith alchemy and architecture and decided he could do better. He forced the Massassi to build new temples, but this time with a focus on complementing and augmenting the dark side. Kun even went so far as to use various technologies to manipulate the Force in ways that I can’t say I understand. I can’t, but I would like to….”

From the journal of Jedi Master Arlo Grennen during his investigation into the dark side’s influence on Yavin 4: “A few hundred years ago, the Jedi Order thought they could cleanse Yavin 4 of its dark influence. They were more aggressive then. I’m actually impressed. The Jedi bombarded the world from orbit with a destructive manifestation of light side power in the hopes it would free the moon from its dark embrace. “The attacking Jedi destroyed much of the life on Yavin 4, which they later worked to restore to its previous state. They thought they’d won, that they’d removed the influence of the dark side. How wrong they were. The Massassi are still here. The dark side is still present. I would not be surprised if Exar Kun’s spirit remains, waiting for someone–a Jedi like myself, perhaps–to find him….”

Jedi Master Arlo Grennen’s final journal entry during his investigation into the dark side’s influence on Yavin 4: “I thought I would find Exar Kun. I believed like a fool that I might be next in line. I felt its pull, the dark side. I yearned for it. Yearned to be taught everything, to become more than what I am. “What I found instead, what found me, is exquisite. Terrifying. Perfect. Perfect. “Revan is coming. I vowed to do everything in my power to stop Revan, but he does not want me to. He chose this place, he knew this day would come, knew the very core of me, everything. “Vitiate, I will make you stronger, I will grant you the only sustenance I know to give, I will become a part of your glory. It’s going to be so beautiful I only wish I could live to see”

http://www.swtor-spy.com/codex/the-dark-legacy-of-yavin-4-part-i/162428/

Not posting all the links, just go to the next one.

Discuss.

*Special thanks to Supremepillz for everything.

Adderall or Vyvanse?

We are merely spirits trapped in bodies. We don't create spirits.

Also, Kun's initial attempt was to amass huge energies of life-force to shed his physical form(escape from the Jedi) and survive as spirit throughout space. However, the Jedi bound his spirit to the Massassi temples. Kun used those life-energies to subsist as Force ghost within the temples for 4000 years. When Luke and his friends came, Kun's life-energy supplies that he stole from the Massassi were already gone.

Simply put: Kun needed those Massassi's life energies to subsist and resist the pull of the Void.

The Massassi he drained provided the energy for the ritual which he spent on becoming one with the Force artificially. Kun preserved his spirit by anchoring it to the temple. Besides that, Veitch confirmed Kun was at his most powerful when alive.

Again, you are wrong. Kun never intended to anchor his soul by the temple. He was planning to escape Yavin 4 as spirit, but the Jedi bound his soul by the Massassi Temples. Gnost confirms it.

What Gnost-Dural says is horse shit.

Exar Kun-who didn't technically die so much as merge with the dark side and retain his identity-resisted the dissolution of his spirit by drawing on the remarkable focusing energies of the Massassi temples on Yavin 4.
- The Dark Side Sourcebook

The source merely states he subsisted by drawing energy from the temples.

No contradiction to what Gnost said. 😬

Besides I find it stupid that you believe it. Because Kun's goal was to avoid the Jedi. Trapping himself in a temple isn't a feasible method. Explains why he had no control over the binding and went to rest. He was forcefully put to rest by the Jedi's Wall of Light. The Force energy-drain depicted in this source shows us that Kun also drained the Temples besides the Massassi to subsist as spirit. It isn't a statement post-Tales Of The Jedi, but during-Tales Of The Jedi.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The Massassi he drained provided the energy for the ritual which he spent on becoming one with the Force artificially. Kun preserved his spirit by anchoring it to the temple. Besides that, Veitch confirmed Kun was at his most powerful when alive.
Death of the author; Veitch's opinion means jack shit.

Considering he also claimed Kun > Darth Sidious, which goes against every quote listed here (and unlike Veitch's opinions, said quotes were actually published by Lucasfilm):

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t640242.html

So Lucas' statements get insta-praise, but Tom's statements don't?

Why accept one's and disapprove the other's?

Because Veitch's opinion that Kun > Sidious contradicts what has been published (the multiple statements that Sidious was the most powerful Sith who ever lived by RotS).

Originally posted by Geistalt
Death of the author; Veitch's opinion means jack shit.

Veitch's clarification of the obvious is perfectly valid.

As valid as this?

The Emperor can't create Force Storms at will. They are in fact a phenomenon that occurs rarely, when the minds of two great Force users meet and struggle with each other at a distance."

😉

He's clarifying his intentions when writing the comics and remains consistent. Your post is meaningless.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Because Veitch's opinion that Kun > Sidious contradicts what has been published (the multiple statements that Sidious was the most powerful Sith who ever lived by RotS).

With the exception being that anything within the Extended Universe timeline of the movies is submissive to Lucas' canon. Even then, these statements only stretch to Darth Bane's times according to Lucas' vision.

If you really want to incorporate Lucas' vision of Star Wars in the whole timeline of the Extended Universe, then you need to take in account that his "visionary" statements only stretch as long as 1000 years pre-Lucas' canon.