Originally posted by Xiggy
> Kyle stalemates Caedus in sabers with 3 feebs
> 3 feebs combined might is said to be far less than one Katarn
> Jacen is at a disadvantage in sabers and ops for Force
> Caedus fan thinks he can beat 4 Katarn's in pure sabers
1.Caedus was injured, irrelevant and he held a margiinal upper hand.
2.Factually incorrect, Katarn is>1 "Feeb" by a considerable amount, there's no proof he can take 2, nor is there proof he's more powerful than all 3 combined massively.
3.Jacen chose force and then stomped them yeah but he still held the upperhand in sabers, albeit it was marginal.
4.You're right, make that 4 Caedus loses to.
Originally posted by DarthCaedus771. Caedus was injured
1 - Read the thread. Same Caedus that fought there is fighting here
2 - He's mostly healed. Having bathed in bacta juice (miracle fluid) The injuries he received from Luke aren't out of it's medical reach and the fluids are known to accelerate the healing process from months to hours. This is on top of having Force healing abilities and enough time to put them to use between fighting Luke untill facing Katarn in the next book.
3 - The injuries aren't a major plot point. Jacen only notes them when things are going horrendously south for himself - getting battered by a lone Jedi knight after being shot :
Caedus hadn’t felt the blaster bolt coming. His concentration was slipping.And this madman of a Falleen Jedi was starting to beat down his parries. His strength was slipping.
He wasn’t yet recovered from his duel with Luke. And now, as more of his troopers began firing, Horn began deflecting more bolts at him. The imprecise, barely aimed nature of the attacks worked in Horn’s favor. The shots were unpredictable and Caedus had to divide his attention between a mad swordsman and a growing number of half-blind snipers.
Legacy of the Force - Fury
4 - Force users circumvent injuries with their magic powers all the time. Darksiders feed off them. Jacen is especially proficient in this art. So given that his injuries are only negatively mentioned in the most extreme moment of the fight... it's probable that they were a complete non factor. Possible that they were actually helping him in every moment until he was struggling to parry some random fodder's strikes.
he held a margiinal upper hand.
Nah. At best he was stalemating them. loosing the saber battle by his own thoughts and actions after the fact - switching to Force.
2. Factually incorrect, Katarn is>1 "Feeb" by a considerable amount, there's no proof he can take 2, nor is there proof he's more powerful than all 3 combined massively.
The manga disagrees with you.
Three Jedi Knights: the younger Horn, the Falleen Mithric, the Bothan Hu’lya. He resisted the urge to snort. Separately or collectively, these Jedi Knights were no match for him.Katarn, though, was a threat.
Legacy of the Force - Fury
Don't trust Jacen's word and need a second opinion?
The five combatants moved as though they’d been choreographing this event for years and had planned, all along, that the two sides would somehow be even.Legacy of the Force - Fury
After Katarn was incapacitated :
Now the three Jedi Knights assailed Solo all-out, a fight they were doomed to lose.Legacy of the Force - Fury
Kyle is holding the team together and the others are helpless without him. And of course, the only reason Kyle is out of the picture is due to an underhanded tactic granted by the environment. Jacen doesn't have the skill to assail him through sabers (with back up) nor the mastery to Force grip him with TK.
As for the Jedi Knights in question :
Valin Horn : No feats and a stated weakness in TK
Fallen Mithric : nothing
Botha Hu’lya : nothing
So the empathetic quotes used for "feeb" are cute... given that it accurately describes them. They're no better than any group of random Jedi Knights who are routinely presented as canon fodder agasint one exceptionally powerful opponent.
Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Either that or don't bother responding here, I know I won't.
Discord isn't a skirt to hide under. You'll just swerve me there anyway. As you have done every time I critically pick apart Caedus.
I've made an argument here. If you address it here you're less likely to misrepresent my points.