Do you believe in miracles?

The new Matrix films have put a lot of people- and very much so on this board- in a philisophical frame of mind. I was looking through some Hume today and this age-old question came up.

We often have religious threads here but they often descend into a lot of trouble. Maybe this more specific question- a concept that need not be attached to anything other than personal belief- will prove mor einteresting and less contentious.

So, very simply, DO you guys believe in miracles?

Just to keep things simple, I define a miracle as Hume does, as follows:

"a transgression of a law of nature by a particular volition of the Deity, or by the interposition of some invisible agent."

Where the 'laws of nature' are those established by modern day science so you may not consider them natural, before any Pagans here get annoyed.

So... opinions? Thoughts? Experiences, even?

I have a small child, so yes, I truely believe in miracles!

Ah yes... but I do rather think that is a miracle in the colloquial sense, rather than the sense I described above. Whilst I am sure your child is very wonderful and lovely its existence lies very much within natural law!

No I don't.

Things happen for reasons, but not by some intervention by some superbeing.

ahem, have you ever seen one come out? Now that's a miracle

I might call that disturbing, but then I tend to find much of natural law very disturbing indeed...

Yep, they made us watch it in Biology 😘

Well never seen a child be born, don't expect to have them neither!But to the point,don't believe in miracles.

Yes and no... I never been through one unless I have and did not know it. I am not sure wether they do exist.

I haven't seen one thing (that I can think of) that can't be explained rationally.

When people can't see a reasoning they usually put it down to a Godly act.

Would you be SURPRISED if they existed, VP?

dont belive in any divine intervention, the fact about your kids being born is one of natures own miracles

dunno what to say. I belive there are some things that don't have a rational explanation.

miracle as in beating the odds which were like 99% against you
no deity for me

No I do not.

you sure dont

nah, everything that happens has an explination by sience, it's not because we don't understand it YET, that it is a miracle

Yeah, it is the more 'supernatural' sort of miracle I was kinda getting at. As I said, a:

"a transgression of a law of nature by a particular volition of the Deity, or by the interposition of some invisible agent."

And whilst, yes, the more colloquial kind of miracles happen all the time- kids being born, winning the lottery, your car passing its MOT and so on- there isn't really much debate over whether THOSE kinds of miracles exist. Can hardly deny kids, can we?

So it is the more controversial, literal sort of miracle I was getting at. I'd like to see what the Julie's and Lauren's and Padme's have to say...

does spontaneous combustion count as a mircale?

I do! Miracles come from above.

As for science , it is proven to be incorrect all the time! For example , lets remember at one time , science told us that the world was flat!