People made their choice, and they're going to have to live with it one way or another. Was it dodgy not holding another referendum when it felt like a lot of people wanted it? Sure. It would have been interesting to see if people voted again to leave, or instead to remain.
That's their right.
It's my right to comment on the fact (yes, fact. Not pretend KMC facts, but actual facts) that a no-deal Brexit will hurt Ireland economically, at least in the short term. It will. England is and has been for years now Ireland's gateway to the continent when it comes to imports and exports. The logistical issues involved in having to reroute ferries to France is already going to be a pain in the ass...
And then there's Northern Ireland. A no-deal Brexit is going to **** them so hard. Not to mention the GFA, or the fact that as it stands, there are 203 (yes, over two hundred) crossings between Ireland and Northern Ireland. This is not enforceable without costiong an obscene amount of money that, if we're being fair, isn't really worth it.
Hell, there's a hospital I go to a couple of times a year that is in Ireland, but the road I use to get there actually passes in to Northern Ireland, then back again.
Originally posted by -Pr-Never say never over the second referendum.
People made their choice, and they're going to have to live with it one way or another. Was it dodgy not holding another referendum when it felt like a lot of people wanted it? Sure. It would have been interesting to see if people voted again to leave, or instead to remain.That's their right.
It's my right to comment on the fact (yes, fact. Not pretend KMC facts, but actual facts) that a no-deal Brexit will hurt Ireland economically, at least in the short term. It will. England is and has been for years now Ireland's gateway to the continent when it comes to imports and exports. The logistical issues involved in having to reroute ferries to France is already going to be a pain in the ass...
And then there's Northern Ireland. A no-deal Brexit is going to **** them so hard. Not to mention the GFA, or the fact that as it stands, there are 203 (yes, over two hundred) crossings between Ireland and Northern Ireland. This is not enforceable without costiong an obscene amount of money that, if we're being fair, isn't really worth it.
Hell, there's a hospital I go to a couple of times a year that is in Ireland, but the road I use to get there actually passes in to Northern Ireland, then back again.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Never say never over the second referendum.
I keep wondering if they're stalling and at some point after waiting long enough will hold it, but only hold it for reasons THEY think are justified.
Though their desire to **** over the public for money can't be underestimated, I think.
Originally posted by -Pr-Farage's whole life has been ****ing over the public, he should pay back his MEP wage and refuse a pension. I agree totally mate.
I keep wondering if they're stalling and at some point after waiting long enough will hold it, but only hold it for reasons THEY think are justified.Though their desire to **** over the public for money can't be underestimated, I think.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Farage's whole life has been ****ing over the public, he should pay back his MEP wage and refuse a pension. I agree totally mate.
He could be the biggest dick on the planet yet they stopped the democratic process, coming from a country that values its citizens they certainly stepped all over them.
Originally posted by snowdragonactually no, because it was always expected parliment would shape brexit. No one voted for no deal.
He could be the biggest dick on the planet yet they stopped the democratic process, coming from a country that values its citizens they certainly stepped all over them.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
No. IIRC the majority of the MPs voted to remain. Britain has a remainer Parliament.
No, not talking about parliament.
Isn't there a push by some that a no deal exit is still favorable than either voting again, extending again or scraping Brexit all together? That come 10/31/2019, the UK leaves regardless of consequences.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
actually no, because it was always expected parliment would shape brexit. No one voted for no deal.
I suppose that's the problem with elections, the vote was placed and the will of the people wasn't enacted. The fact that they didn't enact the will of the majority in Britain is a bit sad.
Originally posted by snowdragonit's very debatable if it was ever the will of the majority of British people, it certainly isn't now and a no deal brexit never was. It isn't what Farrage and Co. Sold the Brexiteers.
I suppose that's the problem with elections, the vote was placed and the will of the people wasn't enacted. The fact that they didn't enact the will of the majority in Britain is a bit sad.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
it's very debatable if it was ever the will of the majority of British people, it certainly isn't now and a no deal brexit never was. It isn't what Farrage and Co. Sold the Brexiteers.
Here is where it is, there was a vote, the majority said do it. The govt is now acting against the vote, everything else is an excuse and it shows that democracy has faltered in GB for this particular event.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Here is where it is, there was a vote, the majority said do it. The govt is now acting against the vote, everything else is an excuse and it shows that democracy has faltered in GB for this particular event.
It's laughable to see pooty and other remainers try to make excuses for why it is ok in this particular circumstance for the british government to go against the will of its country's citizens. I guarantee you if the vote had gone the other way and the leavers were trying to make excuses for why the vote shouldn't count the remainers would be scorning them for trying to interfere with the will of the people.
Since the vote didn't go their way though they feel it's perfectly fine to throw a hissy fit and demand for the vote not to be counted.
Kinda reminds me of the left after Trump royally whipped Hillary in the 2016 election and they cried "Russia! Russia! Russia!" for nearly three years lol.
#SoreLosers
Originally posted by Putinbot1
it's very debatable if it was ever the will of the majority of British people, it certainly isn't now and a no deal brexit never was. It isn't what Farrage and Co. Sold the Brexiteers.
How do you know it isn't the will now? Was another vote taken?
Do not cite a poll as evidence.