Maul's potential

I thought Filoni said in one of those deleted YT commentaries that he would have needed someone like Dooku because a demonic dark side looking guy like Maul isn’t prime for being charismatic and leading a anti-corruption movement.

Maybe I’m wrong tho

Just look at him, a public face/representation as a political figurehead, Maul is not. Now a leader as war strategy? Sure, Maul could fit that role.

Maul per every canon source I have read that has dealt with the matter was definitely slated for some kind of military-political role in the clone wars, and his tact in dealing with such matters was made pretty clear in the Mandalore arc. Maul's demonic appearance was an issue in the old EU because they were originally Sith tattoos: this was obviously retconned when he was made into a Nightbrother, hence why him appearing "demonic" has never surfaced as an issue in the new canon.

This is why citations are important.

Maul "demonic" appearance being a hinderance in a galaxy filled exotic aliens sounds like a not very well thought explanation.

Witwer definitely clarified once that the Mandalorian arc showed how he would most likely do it. There would be a puppet leader for the public face like Vizsla or Almec. But Maul would be in charge behind the scenes.

Maul is consistently called "blunt" in canon sources, Witwer and Filoni's opinions don't change that. Lmao, how did he acquire Mandalore? By forcing crime syndicates to ally with him through brute force, then used a very simple plan to take over the place (before killing their leader, a display of martial skill).

And the retard couldn't even do that right, because Grievous very nearly wiped out his forces in a single battle 😂
Let's also not forget that the events of SoD were all Talzin's doing - to lure Sidious out - so all Maul really did was kill some gangsters and lose his whole army to droids.

Doesn't sound very Palpatine-esque to me. Dooku however; "Controlled and refined, he was an expert manipulator of situations and people, almost on a par with his dark Master."

Look at that, not a single citation.

You doubt the authenticity? Both quotes are from the Relaunched Fact Files, I took screenshots of them yesterday without taking note of the issue number. I'll find them now.

Whats the quote? That hes blunt?

Doesnt really compare to Palpatine confirming to Vader that Maul was the loss and Dooku the placeholder.

Director commentary also counts if you wana ignore Disney stuff.

They were both placeholders according to the Ep 1 Visual Guide. Let's not pretend that's more definitive than Dooku being called "better in the dark dealings" or "more subtle than the blunt instrument Maul" (paraphrasing)

It's. Not. Just. Disney. Stuff. The Relaunched Fact Files have a lot of the Legends material in there, it's just been updated with the new Canon happenings.

All overruled by Lucas (and even Filoni tbh). Lucas statements made it clear Maul was a legit apprentice.

At the very least he was a suitable back up choice if the whole chosen one thing didnt pan out.

Wtf are you talking about? He's a legit Apprentice, he's just a shittier one than Dooku.

Legitimate Apprentices can be blunt, and they can be weak relative to someone like Dooku. There's no contradiction.

"I have citations, I just refuse to show you them!"

Yeah, I've only got 80 Fact Files to look through 👆

When I find them, you'll see them. It's comforting to see that you're not actually arguing anything, merely bitching about sources.

Why would I argue against sources I can't even read myself you utter potato?

The Maul blunt quotes? Here.

"Darth Maul was not one for subtlety and his plan to draw Obi-Wan Kenobi to him was typically blunt."

"Key to Darth Sidious' plans were the activities of his new apprentice, Darth Tyranus. Former Jedi Master, Count Dooku was Sidious' principal agent, and proved himself a subtler weapon than the blunt instrument Darth Maul had been."

I'm trying to find the issue numbers for everything I've posted, including the "dark dealings" quote. Just give me some ****ing time 👆

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Dooku definitely would’ve gotten the job, at least in Canon. It’s stated that Sidious was actively looking for a replacement for Maul, someone better in the “dark dealings that would spell the final end of the Republic.”

This is clearly meant in more ways than one, because if Palpatine was only speaking about a political figure, he’d have just chosen any random politician to front the CIS. Maul’s a simple thug with no tact 👆

That's the quote I'm trying to find in full.

I was addressing your completely different argument (and Thor's) about Maul being some skilled mastermind because he's a Sith Apprentice... but now we know that's not true. What a pity.

Top kek.

https://www.starwars.com/databank/darth-maul

"A deadly, agile Sith Lord trained by the evil Darth Sidious, Darth Maul was a formidable warrior and scheming mastermind."