Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Basically. It's nice if you like pretty pictures -reminds me of a Bryan Hitch Ultimate comic. Like the writer isn't writing 616 characters, but with lots of cock teasing.

Yea the ultra violence is cool. Seems out of place because I've never seen Hulk as a violent character more of a misunderstood character.

Originally posted by carver9
So if I post him engaging Hulk, would you admit to me that you're wrong and you need to get off this topic? Read issue Thor #25.

Thor didn't do anything in 25 other that headbutt hulk and some off panel lightning. He was trying to calm him down as usual. But you're missing my original point. The story reads more like fanfic than anything. The power scaling is inconsistent. The space ship thing is weird considering the reconciliation and possession is off considering Hulk resistance feats but I'm assuming magic is involved hence Odin's concern.

The fight was mainly Hulk vs the Celestial armor. Thor didn't get a chance or attempt to try and calm Hulk and Thor even thinks this is the most dangerous fight he can be in right now.

I agree with the fanfic.

What's wrong with the power scaling?

Hulk doesn't have the space ship on anymore. He's been without it during most of the issue. Also, Banner built it so that he can control Hulk power level. Don't see nothing off about it.

Odin is even helpless here. His mental construct was straight up destroyed by the Hulk. The story is fanfic but people are liking it. Also, Cates mentioned that his goal is to throw everything at the Hulk to push him past his limits.

Originally posted by carver9
The fight was mainly Hulk vs the Celestial armor. Thor didn't get a chance or attempt to try and calm Hulk and Thor even thinks this is the most dangerous fight he can be in right now.

I agree with the fanfic.

What's wrong with the power scaling?

Hulk doesn't have the space ship on anymore. He's been without it during most of the issue. Also, Banner built it so that he can control Hulk power level. Don't see nothing off about it.

Odin is even helpless here. His mental construct was straight up destroyed by the Hulk. The story is fanfic but people are liking it. Also, Cates mentioned that his goal is to throw everything at the Hulk to push him past his limits.

Liar.

Hasn't Odin been extremely nerfed ever since he lost to JaneThor? IIRC he couldn't even control Mjolnir anymore.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Hasn't Odin been extremely nerfed ever since he lost to JaneThor? IIRC he couldn't even control Mjolnir anymore.

Yes but in this case, Thor was already in possession of some of the Odin Force but now he have the entirety of it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except Thor never said it?

Can you read?

Never facing anything like this before =/= This is the most dangerous fight of all.

If I get into a fight with a baby wearing a caterpillar outfit, it's something I've never actually faced before. Doesn't mean it's the most dangerous fight I've ever had.

Reading comprehension ftw, Carvy 😂

Endless Mike, note how Carv lies despite it being clear.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes but in this case, Thor was already in possession of some of the Odin Force but now he have the entirety of it.

Then obviously he's not very adept at using it to its full potential...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Then obviously he's not very adept at using it to its full potential...

Thor seems to be a fast learner and do you honestly believe this is the writer intent? The reason I'm saying he is a fast learner is because, he learned how to use the power cosmic near instantly and even with a portion of the Odin Force, he was stealing power from an amped Galactus.

Originally posted by carver9
Your tears.

Need some assistance. How fast did Flash go in this scene? Anyone have a number for this...

https://ibb.co/kJG8GBx

Originally posted by carver9
The fight was mainly Hulk vs the Celestial armor. Thor didn't get a chance or attempt to try and calm Hulk and Thor even thinks this is the most dangerous fight he can be in right now.

I agree with the fanfic.

What's wrong with the power scaling?

Hulk doesn't have the space ship on anymore. He's been without it during most of the issue. Also, Banner built it so that he can control Hulk power level. Don't see nothing off about it.

Odin is even helpless here. His mental construct was straight up destroyed by the Hulk. The story is fanfic but people are liking it. Also, Cates mentioned that his goal is to throw everything at the Hulk to push him past his limits.

You are backtracking. You asked me to read Thor 25. I did and it did not show what you said. Thor has been holding back the entire series unless I'm missing an issue. The buster armors (every last one) are trash.

The scaling is trash. Not every character needs to be stronger than the last. Celestial-level armor Stark, gamma nukes, Odin Force Thor with Odin Spirited Mjolnir...its utter trash. Plus Cates just shitted on a ton of character development for dragon ball z ish power creep.

Again you don't understand the character. Why would banner need to control Hulk when then are working together? That was the whole point of Immortal Hulk, to finally be a team. Now he's using him? Shit it dumb.

Lastly Odin' is trying to reason with Hulk which is a trope in and of itself

Originally posted by carver9
Need some assistance. How fast did Flash go in this scene? Anyone have a number for this...

https://ibb.co/kJG8GBx

If you didn't ask questions in bad faith, you wouldn't ask questions at all, would you.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You are backtracking. You asked me to read Thor 25. I did and it did not show what you said. Thor has been holding back the entire series unless I'm missing an issue. The buster armors (every last one) are trash.

The scaling is trash. Not every character needs to be stronger than the last. Celestial-level armor Stark, gamma nukes, Odin Force Thor with Odin Spirited Mjolnir...its utter trash. Plus Cates just shitted on a ton of character development for dragon ball z ish power creep.

Again you don't understand the character. Why would banner need to control Hulk when then are working together? That was the whole point of Immortal Hulk, to finally be a team. Now he's using him? Shit it dumb.

Lastly Odin' is trying to reason with Hulk which is a trope in and of itself

You do know which armor this is Tony is using, right? Lol

Originally posted by carver9
You do know which armor this is Tony is using, right? Lol

Yes buster armor. All shit armors

Hulkbuster trash
God buster trash
Thor buster trash
Phoenix buster trash

You can't legitimately think these armors are more than just fodder?

Classic Odin has consistent feats that make everything the Hulk has ever done look like chump change. Scaling him to a much weakened Odin doesn't put him on that level.

Originally posted by carver9
Need some assistance. How fast did Flash go in this scene? Anyone have a number for this...

https://ibb.co/kJG8GBx

JLA #89 (2003)

It’s supposed to be near light speed but feat is actually well above > c

https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/20512t/the_math_behind_how_the_flash_saved_a_population/

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A third reading, is that he was both faster and slower than the speed of light.

We know the Flash carried the Koreans at 'a hair breadth's short of the speed of light'.

But when he's running BACK into the city, empty handed, without anyone in his arms and when's he's not having to worry about civilians..he's running faster.

So, rather than assuming a constant speed (the speed that he carried them there = the speed he runs back into the city), he probably took a bit more care+time when he was carrying a little old Korean lady, than ramping it up to max gear when he's on his own.

Also:

He's making two trips, of 35 miles each (assuming the city is concentrated in 1 spot - this is grossly underestimating, as Chongjin is 104 square miles;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongjin). This would be for every rescue.

Basically, that Reddit post is a massive lowball, lol.

The feat should just be disregarded. Darksaint’s argument is the only interpretation that avoids contradicting the narrator but it’s such a technical way to read a poorly written scene.

It shouldn’t be held up as proof of Flash’s speed but it should be held up as proof that comic book editors are useless.

The Reddit thread relies on some variables given by the narrator (distance, time, population) but selectively ignores another variable (travel speed) to recharacterize the feat.

But you can’t have it both ways. Either we can rely on the narration or we can’t. It’s just bad writing.

Not necessarily. There is always the possibility of time travel being involved.