Without the need for portals, or physical contact. And it's something that you can't portal back from either, unless you can casually time travel - for example, Nightcrawler could try teleporting Quicksilver away, but assuming he can pull it off before QS hits him/runs away, QS can simply run back to the battlefield.
Or if Manifold teleports Pixie away, she can always teleport back (assuming she's not dumped somewhere like the sun or whatever).
But this? Time travel is a lot trickier for many.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean he's not.... misinterpreting the feat per se.It's just that he's making it out to be bigger than it is.
These are the facts, in chronological order. If people say I'm hating, or low-ballling, then I welcome their rebuttals of these points. Simply saying I'm hating or salty, isn't a debate - it's just name calling.
Facts
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[*]The rules of science are being rewritten. Reality is warped.
[*]Galactus has absorbed Hell Lords and heralds
[*]He has also absorbed Black Bolt, whose energies are hurting him so badly, the ramifications are felt across the universe
[*] And then..... and then...Gladiator flies in and sucker punches him
[*]Gladiator has amazing feats tagging Galactus, is called the most powerful mortal to have fought G, and outraces his photons
[*] Galactus then destroys him and absorbs HIS energy
[*]Spurred on by this, the entire army - thousandS upon thousandS - jump on G, who absorbs them all. Everything and Everyone they have ever known.
[*]This starts to overload G, and the universe then teeters on the brink, which scares LT.
[/List]Are we all agreed? Nothing I've typed here is misinterpreted, or missing. Some of you guys are clinging blindly to points 2, 4, and 5, and are blatantly ignoring for whatever reason, points 1 and 3.
Which are pretty big points, IMO.
THEN others are misinterpreting point 8, ignoring point 7.
If you say I'm hating or low-ballling, then please, rebut point 1 and 3. It wasn't 'just' an upset tummy, as we can see it's affecting everyone in ways that aren't even based in science. Scientific principles are being warped, so people trying to ground their arguments in 'logic' have no foundation to base it on.
In short, I am equating it to feats like Hercules holding up the heavens, or (yeah, let's go there) Superman lifting Infinity, or lifting the Spectre, or .....yeah, you get my point. Cool feat, but ultimately useless.
Moreover....let's see how this plays out. Nobody here really seriously thinks the heroes are all dead, lol. Let's see how Strange brings them back.
But as it stands:. If you say I am hating/low-ballling, refute points 1 and 3, please.
Guess no one could. Everyone who think I'm a hater, or salty, or lowballing, obviously are themselves unable to debate and have to resort to name calling.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
highly doubt it was the multiverse. Maybe Earth 1 verse but not the multiverse. He isn't taking Lucifer, elaine, presence etc.
Then that implies Earth 1 is perpetually a few seconds in the future compared to the rest of the Multiverse.....
It's the sheer scope and power as well. He connected to everyone, EXCEPT one single person, and took them all, without touching, or seeing them, because of his link.
What stops him from using this link to speed steal, for example? He could speedsteal the entirety of Apokolips, lol, without needing to even see them, whilst on Earth.
It's really not that hard.
As stated multiple times on panel: Turtle was using the Still Force in a multiversal capacity. To counter this, Flash had to use the Speed Force in a multiversal capacity as well... Hence Flash referencing the multiverse a few panels before he referenced speeding up "ALL of time and space."
Dare I say Flash had two multiversal feats there...
Truly mind-boggling that some people won't even hesitate to wank shit like Gladiator making the universe's bones rattle, but are then so unwilling to accept Flash's feats for what they clearly are...
Yeah, I mean, this is the real crazy herald feat this week, and we (including me, admittedly) all focussed on that Gladiator showing when in the next issue it'll all POTENTIALLY be reversed away as never happening....
Powering through the Still Force like that, considering its his Kryptonite.... Stopping attempts at speed stealing....Time travelling casually like that with everyone and everything, all on two pages, and no one made a biggie out of it - easily Barry's best feat so far.
And people say the board is DC biased.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I know what buffer means. Buffer had nothing to do with my statement.
Oh I wouldn't say that.
It shows you're so willing to over egg the feat, you'd either A : misinterprete comics on purpose or B: skim over so quickly you make mistakes.
Besides, as I've said, reality was warped and scientific rules were broken. Stated clearly on panel - it's nothing to do with my feelings, I can post the scans stating so.
Saying I 'feel like that' is ignoring on panel proof, and is trolling.
Just want to point out that a weaker Galactus was tanking attacks from some of the most powerful mages in the Universe...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686808/Doctor_Strange_016-003.jpg.html
Not only that, he was resisting the power from a Hell Lord, a weaker version of Galactus...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686810/Doctor_Strange_016-005.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686811/Doctor_Strange_016-006.jpg.html
Absorbed him and became so powerful that everyone felt as if it was over and no point in fighting...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686812/Doctor_Strange_016-007.jpg.html
The heros attack this same Galactus, nothing...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686813/Doctor_Strange_016-008.jpg.html
He withstood at a weaker state attacks from some of the most powerful Mages in Marvel. He resisted attacks from a Hell Lord. Resisted attacks from all of the heros but then Gladiator shows up...
Makes him bleed...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686818/Doctor_Strange_016-013.jpg.html
And temporarily powers through his attack while baking his skin...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686819/Doctor_Strange_016-014.jpg.html
Him temporarily powering through his attack his insane because...
Everyone was getting one shot killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686821/Doctor_Strange_016-016.jpg.html
Black Bolt killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686817/Doctor_Strange_016-012.jpg.html
Silver Surfer killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686815/Doctor_Strange_016-010.jpg.html
Hell Lord killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686812/Doctor_Strange_016-007.jpg.html
Instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686809/Doctor_Strange_016-004.jpg.html
Like I said, crazy ft for Gladiator. Abstract ft. I am truly proud of him. Also, Black Bolt pushing Galactus back doesnt compare to Gladiator HURTING Big G. All of the scans above happened during the time reality was supposedly affecting this battle. 😂
Originally posted by carver9
Just want to point out that a weaker Galactus was tanking attacks from some of the most powerful mages in the Universe...https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686808/Doctor_Strange_016-003.jpg.html
Not only that, he was resisting the power from a Hell Lord, a weaker version of Galactus...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686810/Doctor_Strange_016-005.jpg.html
Absorbed him and became so powerful that everyone felt as if it was over and no point in fighting...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686812/Doctor_Strange_016-007.jpg.html
The heros attack this same Galactus, nothing...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686813/Doctor_Strange_016-008.jpg.html
He withstood at a weaker state attacks from some of the most powerful Mages in Marvel. He resisted attacks from a Hell Lord. Resisted attacks from all of the heros but then Gladiator shows up...
Makes him bleed...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686818/Doctor_Strange_016-013.jpg.html
And temporarily powers through his attack while baking his skin...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686819/Doctor_Strange_016-014.jpg.html
Him temporarily powering through his attack his insane because...
Everyone was getting one shot killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686821/Doctor_Strange_016-016.jpg.html
Black Bolt killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686817/Doctor_Strange_016-012.jpg.html
Silver Surfer killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686815/Doctor_Strange_016-010.jpg.html
Hell Lord killed instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686812/Doctor_Strange_016-007.jpg.html
Instantly...
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/41686809/Doctor_Strange_016-004.jpg.html
Like I said, crazy ft for Gladiator. Abstract ft. I am truly proud of him. Also, Black Bolt pushing Galactus back doesnt compare to Gladiator HURTING Big G. All of the scans above happened during the time reality was supposedly affecting this battle. 😂
And how does this scan dump disprove the scan saying reality was warped and scientific laws were being rewritten?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
by the scan he only took everyone on Earth besides the turtle. Even shows the Earth being consumed by the speed force. Future flash talked about the multiverse but the scan only shows Earth being consumed.
So only the earth is a few seconds ahead, not Oa or Thanagar etc, or the multi verse?
