Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by Smurph
It is weird that Abhi is working to force Goob to defend something posted 3 years before Abhi joined KMC.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't understand how/why the super jump feat is even a point of conflict between people. Supes did the thing with the book of infinite pages years ago after all. The super jump is infinitely LESS impressive than lifting the book so I don't know why people who dislike Supes are constantly arguing against it while Supes's fans act like it's some kind of next level feat. It's a cool feat, it's an impressive feat, but ultimately it doesn't change a damn thing...

Don't tell me it wasn't a big point in the past decade that Superman can't destroy a planet and hence was inferior to the likes of Silver Surfer. Its all there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't tell me it wasn't a big point in the past decade that Superman can't destroy a planet and hence was inferior to the likes of Silver Surfer. Its all there.

Well I honestly don't think it's been a big point for me personally that he couldn't destroy a planet because I consider him to be stronger than Gladiator who've I known could destroy a planer for quite a while. I mean if you can think of some specific argument I've made(especially from the last decade) I'll happily review what I said and either provide context to my statement or flat out say that I had to have been tripping at the time. The closest I can remember to being involved in such a topic though was to repeatedly point out that Supes HADN'T destroyed a planet(not that he couldn't) to people who frequently took the position that collateral damage was the end all be all and/or that any feat not seen on panel should be considered impossible on the forum in an attempt to lowball Marvel characters. I used to think if you demonstrated someone's logic was faulty by flipping it that it'd have an impact. This was before I gave up on everyone obviously...

I didn't say it was anyone in particular. It was just the sentiments of this forum as I read the earlier posts.

Originally posted by darthgoober
To me that's like trying to differentiate between a war, and a "police action" that in all ways resembles a war. However it's spun, they're too inconsistent for me to take anything they release seriously anymore. TBF, Marvel's really been pushing that line too. When it looked like they might have Surfer rebuild everything and everyone from scratch and how he thought would be best(thereby invalidating everything that came before) I was ready to throw my hands up and say f*ck all them too even though they haven't done it as many times as DC.

I honestly don't get that line of thinking. Too many times? 1986 and 2011 is two reboots. Two. If that's too much for you, then fair enough, but I honestly don't like when people act like they reshuffle their deck every time someone farts at DC.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its weird that you don't even know what's the argument is about and yet are passing remarks on it. This is what's argument is about.

Don't tell me it wasn't a big point in the past decade that Superman can't destroy a planet and hence was inferior to the likes of Silver Surfer. Its all there.

People have always argued Surfer winning due to his insane hax, and solar drain which would still work. I don't get why superman fans hate this fact

Superman is mellow.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly don't get that line of thinking. Too many times? 1986 and 2011 is two reboots. Two. If that's too much for you, then fair enough, but I honestly don't like when people act like they reshuffle their deck every time someone farts at DC.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Forum rule:

Fine. What's shown ON PANEL? How many suns does Superman fly into ON PANEL?

SIX.

What does the interview say?

SIX.

We go by what's shown on panel. I don't make things up like say that Batman injects Venom behind the scenes, or carries a small shard of platinum Kryptonite in his belt to amp his stats, in order to explain his showings - we go by what is shown.

And what is shown are SIX suns. The writer confirms it is SIX suns. Forum rules mean that his interview is inadmissible if it contradicts what is on panel. But on panel we see SIX booms.

Anything more, is you injecting head canon and making stuff up. Why don't I say that AFTER the countless suns you say he sundips in, I then go, 'well, maybe he then sundips in RED suns, to bring himself down?'

Carver, hello!

I know you're online🙂

I already explained that and an interview doesnt change what I said. We clearly see him heading to another sun. Also, per Superman himself, things work completely different in that universe. What happens in ours doesnt apply to that place. Everything about the environment was different and again, Superman even admits this.

Originally posted by carver9
I already explained that and an interview doesnt change what I said. We clearly see him heading to another sun. Also, per Superman himself, things work completely different in that universe. What happens in ours doesnt apply to that place. Everything about the environment was different and again, Superman even admits this.

But we don't see him going into any more suns. So where's your proof? I count six BOOMS.

So if everything is different, what are you trying to say now lol?

Originally posted by carver9
I already explained that and an interview doesnt change what I said. We clearly see him heading to another sun. Also, per Superman himself, things work completely different in that universe. What happens in ours doesnt apply to that place. Everything about the environment was different and again, Superman even admits this.

It was definately 6 suns though

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But we don't see him going into any more suns. So where's your proof? I count six BOOMS.

So if everything is different, what are you trying to say now lol?

Here's the scene I'm referencing...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/42571851/SmartSelect_20190828-185214_Chrome.jpg.html

What im saying is, things there doesnt work like it does in his own Universe.

Originally posted by carver9
Here's the scene I'm referencing...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/42571851/SmartSelect_20190828-185214_Chrome.jpg.html

What im saying is, things there doesnt work like it does in his own Universe.

And how does it materially affect the feat?

Lol MrMind predicted you accurately.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And how does it materially affect the feat?

Lol MrMind predicted you accurately.

Indeed. So I am asking Carver if that is his argument here, if you're now jumping in, you can answer for him if you want (and if not, then your useful contribution is at an end).

Is Carver now arguing that because it took place in the 6th Dimension, nothing is valid as it's not the 3rd Dimension?

Y'know, because of something that happened in Marvel? Lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Indeed. So I am asking Carver if that is his argument here, if you're now jumping in, you can answer for him if you want (and if not, then your useful contribution is at an end).

Is Carver now arguing that because it took place in the 6th Dimension, nothing is valid as it's not the 3rd Dimension?

Y'know, because of something that happened in Marvel? Lol.

There is a HUGE sexual tension between Saint and Carv.

Do not interrupt.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Indeed. So I am asking Carver if that is his argument here, if you're now jumping in, you can answer for him if you want (and if not, then your useful contribution is at an end).

Is Carver now arguing that because it took place in the 6th Dimension, nothing is valid as it's not the 3rd Dimension?

Y'know, because of something that happened in Marvel? Lol.

Lol, what I'm saying is, things work COMPLETELY different there. Superman even admits this. An argument on his statement can be made about a lot of things but I'm not the one to do it. As I said, whatever you're applying for the sun dips doesnt apply in Supermans own dimension since everything about the dimension he was in is different. Completely different. I think he mentions it again. Let me check.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There is a HUGE sexual tension between Saint and Carv.

Do not interrupt.

😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
People have always argued Surfer winning due to his insane hax, and solar drain which would still work. I don't get why superman fans hate this fact

Solar drain is pretty much ineffective when Superman can recharge by just sunlight anytime.