Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Nope, not anymore Read Darkseid war and Justice/ doom war
ALE is now a full fledged power and not an equation.

Also
1. Darkfather was the Lord of anti-life:

2) When a base Supes faced darkfather, he was defeated and captured:

3) Superman was washed with anti life power.
But Batman prevented his dead cells from mutating and he didn't become a full Darkseid:

4: Just one punched the darkfather who earlier defeated him outta the artificial sun into space:

THIS is the ALE now. It's Not any equation.

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid outright said he was going to remove Superman kryptonian cells and replace it with the Ale and have him rule over earth. Giving him power beyond his imagination. The Ale is an amp. Hopefully he doesn't have it in this scene.

Originally posted by carver9
It is making people more powerful though. This is obvious.

I like how people are saying that superman was amped, even though he was stated to be weakened. 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Geoff Johns version of ALE was from Anti matter universe which is separate from the normal multiverse. Snyder only had ALE as a mathematical formula (Darkfather is basically Final Crisis Darkseid fused with Batman).
Darkfather was going to give him HIS powers after corruption with ALE.
How's it making people more powerful?

Your point is...?

Barbatos is obvs weakened, he's sitting there in chains....... If he's a so called Universal/multiversal eater then there's nothing stopping him from eating/destroying those chains and going about his business. There's also nothing stopping him from throwing some sort of blast that would've stopped him from taking that hit.

Abhi, there's no difference between anti matter ALE and normal multiverse ALE.

The ALE is a full fledged power now, IDK why you're still sitting with Morrison's equation concept.
MULTIPLE times the ALE had been shown to be an actual power and not an equation.
Perpetua grants ultra monitor the ALE:

^ Perpetua stated that she restored Mobius (supposedly to COIE levels) after she granted him the anti-life so it's definitely not just a formula

The ALE is an abstract concept that can be applied as a mathematical formula.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
A chained Barbatos didn't mean got weakened. If someone can put me down with one punch when he is "all but spent", Then I don't think I could win in a fight between me and him

He's chained up in tenth metal chains. He's weak to tenth metal and nth too to a slightly lesser extent.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He's chained up in tenth metal chains. He's weak to tenth metal and nth too to a slightly lesser extent.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Your point is...?

Barbatos is obvs weakened, he's sitting there in chains....... If he's a so called Universal/multiversal eater then there's nothing stopping him from eating/destroying those chains and going about his business. There's also nothing stopping him from throwing some sort of blast that would've stopped him from taking that hit.

So, it's certain that Barbatos was weakened without any proof, huh?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Abhi, there's no difference between anti matter ALE and normal multiverse ALE.

The ALE is a full fledged power now, IDK why you're still sitting with Morrison's equation concept.
MULTIPLE times the ALE had been shown to be an actual power and not an equation.
Perpetua grants ultra monitor the ALE:

^ Perpetua stated that she restored Mobius (supposedly to COIE levels) after she granted him the anti-life so it's definitely not just a formula

What if those chains were used to haul stars

The meme of Eobard being responsible for all the bad things in Barry's life was fullly fledged in the latest Flash issue.

He is even retconned to have been responsible for Heroes in Crisis 😂

The Flash issue also confirms that the 853rd century(DC1M) is still the main/canon future. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
The Flash issue also confirms that the 853rd century(DC1M) is still the main/canon future. 👆

thawne seems to be absurdly powerful

darkseid is pretty much back to his old self

as to prime...

Thought it was interesting that AM is literally ripping Spectre in half there.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Where did it state that? He was chained but never stated he was weakened

Notice how the heroes with 10th metal armours oneshots their DM counterparts and previously had trouble dealing with them:

Hawkgirl one shot barbatos with 10th metal wings.
He later recovered but wasn't seen again until in chains and weakened.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Notice how the heroes with 10th metal armours oneshots their DM counterparts and previously had trouble dealing with them:

Hawkgirl one shot barbatos with 10th metal wings.
He later recovered but wasn't seen again until in chains and weakened.

Edit:Also do you have proof those chains that imprisoning Barbatos are made from 10th metal?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Or 10th metal is that powerful like the comics suggest.It could amp those characters to a point that they could easily oneshot their counterparts.
Like I said before there is zero evidence to say Barbatos was weakened by 10th metal.
Also like you pointed out, Barbatos really had some healing ability, So after he was defeated in Metal( A long time ago) don't you think he should already recovered from his previous injuries?

Edit:Also do you have proof those chains that imprisoning Barbatos are made from 10th metal?

He's weak to 10th metal which was used against him, the chains were forged by Overmonitor from 10th metal

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He's weak to 10th metal which was used against him, the chains were forged by Overmonitor from 10th metal

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Weak to 10th metal?Based on?
And the scan that ABHI posted before
https://postlmg.cc/mcR2SP0S
It mentioned Barbatos was trapped in the chains forged by the overmonitor himself but didn't mention Overmonitor used 10th metal to forge those chains
Edit: The scan you posted actually hyped the 10th metal's potential
https://i.postimg.cc/dwQbc6tS/cha.jpg
"But the tenth(10th metal).....Also called element X is metal of the so-called forge itself.
The metal of pure possibility.
They say whoever wields it....Let his first words be recorded forever in the halls of kings"

Its obvs theyre 10th metal, What else would they be made from? Nothing else should be able to hold him