Colorado baker is back in court over cake refusal for transitioning person
Replace the flour with baking soda and the frosting with mayonnaise and tell them it's a "transitional cake".
Colorado baker is back in court over cake refusal for transitioning person
Replace the flour with baking soda and the frosting with mayonnaise and tell them it's a "transitional cake".
Originally posted by Raptor22
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So he didn't want to bake a cake that was pink on the outside and blue on the inside. This raises the question, would he make the same refusal to bake such a colored cake if the customer was straight and that was just their color preference, or is it exclusively because the customer was trans? If it's the latter then I imagine him having more trouble with this case because there is nothing inherently or overtly weird about a cake that is blue and pink, and it then just becomes discrimination on his part not wanting to sell a cake to a trans person that he would anyone else.
Originally posted by RobtardJesus didn't bake. bible feats or it didn't happen. he certainly wouldn't have refused to make them a table.
This guy really needs to look in the mirror and ask himself "what wuld Jesus do?". IMO, Jesus would bake this cake as well and it would be a marvelous cake, cos Jesus loves everyone and it's just a cake they're asking for.
Originally posted by Robtard
This guy really needs to look in the mirror and ask himself "what wuld Jesus do?". IMO, Jesus would bake this cake as well and it would be a marvelous cake, cos Jesus loves everyone and it's just a cake they're asking for.
A damned persons money is as good as a saved persons.
If he was serious, make it Christians only. An exclusive club.
Originally posted by Impediment
I'm not anti-trans/transphobic, but I do believe that this baker has the right to a refusal, even if it is a shitty reason. You have to take the bad with the good when it comes to freedom of religion and speech.
He has the right to limit clients.
He doesn't have the right to serve the entire public, except "those people."
Originally posted by Robtard
This guy really needs to look in the mirror and ask himself "what wuld Jesus do?". IMO, Jesus would bake this cake as well and it would be a marvelous cake, cos Jesus loves everyone and it's just a cake they're asking for.
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Let's form our own religion.
But I get to be the Joseph Smith of the religion. You can be the Racist Brigham Young.
Originally posted by Impediment
I'm not anti-trans/transphobic, but I do believe that this baker has the right to a refusal, even if it is a shitty reason. You have to take the bad with the good when it comes to freedom of religion and speech.
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Robtard, Impediment can join our church. I guess PVS can join the church, too. Not sure of his role, yet, though.
Edit - And about the topic, he should get to refuse anyone based on if he likes them or not. If he thinks someone looks like a LotR fan and he hates LotR fans, let him. If he hates Muslims: let him. Let him run his business how he wants. I don't care that someone's feelings will get hurt. If people still give him money, he will stay in business.
Originally posted by Impediment
Actually, it's entirely his right to do so, but it doesn't make it right.
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm fairly certain the backbone of "protected classes" revolves around whether a business serves the entire public or not. It was developed originally to stop businesses from refusing to serve blacks/African Americans/whatever the acceptable term is now. Then they kept adding to it, but the concept remains the same.
You can say "I won't serve you if you don't wear shoes." You can't say "I don't serve women", because they're folded under a protected class of people that you must take with the general public.
Same deal for religion. A Muslim baker serving the community must serve Christians, and a Christian baker must serve Muslims.
That's only for public businesses though, Pretty sure you can make a "Muslims only" business, require some form of membership id or payments, and do whatever you want.
Originally posted by cdtm
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm fairly certain the backbone of "protected classes" revolves around whether a business serves the entire public or not. It was developed originally to stop businesses from refusing to serve blacks/African Americans/whatever the acceptable term is now. Then they kept adding to it, but the concept remains the same.You can say "I won't serve you if you don't wear shoes." You can't say "I don't serve women", because they're folded under a protected class of people that you must take with the general public.
Same deal for religion. A Muslim baker serving the community must serve Christians, and a Christian baker must serve Muslims.
That's only for public businesses though, Pretty sure you can make a "Muslims only" business, require some form of membership id or payments, and do whatever you want.
I hear what you're saying bruh, I really do. Still, as a private business owner, it's his right to refuse service to whomever he chooses, even if it is a bigoted reason that will put him in a very actionable position. That's called the First Amendment.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Jesus didn't bake. bible feats or it didn't happen. he certainly wouldn't have refused to make them a table.
Jesus can cast various healing spells, transmutation spells, can talk to fish like Aquaman, can manipulate weather like Storm (X-Men), can create food and water, can cause vegetation to wither and die and can bring back the dead like some damned necromancer; including himself. So excuse me if I'm banking that a simple cake isn't beyond Jesus' magical repertoire of abilities.