Ganondorf vs Demise

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If you have questions, I don't mind answering them.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I know too little about Skyward Sword to argue this! 😆

Mind if we could talk in PM for a moment?

5L has been mostly on point. I disagree with _things_ but it's not important. The facts are mostly in order.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I do have to wonder why you fought so hard in this thread then.

5L has been mostly on point. I disagree with _things_ but it's not important. The facts are mostly in order.

I also like to learn new things. :3

I didn’t try too hard though.

Debating standards? My main rule is "game evidence only". No interviews, no guidebooks, etc. Very rare exceptions to this.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Debating standards? My main rule is "game evidence only". No interviews, no guidebooks, etc. Very rare exceptions to this.

I do have a bias against Hyrule Historia and Hyrule Encyclopedia because they are full of errors and made up information.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
I do have a bias against Hyrule Historia and Hyrule Encyclopedia because they are full of errors and made up information.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Debating standards? My main rule is "game evidence only". No interviews, no guidebooks, etc. Very rare exceptions to this.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Game evidence only, I care not for debate then. Lmao.

If you're not using actual game evidence, you're just tossing around headcanon, which is worthless.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If you're not using actual game evidence, you're just tossing around headcanon, which is worthless.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
If you're not using actual game evidence, you're just tossing around headcanon, which is worthless.

Interviews especially, guidebooks not so much, but I 100% take Hyrule Historia as the highest canon, comparable to the game's themselves.

Continuity errors abound, but for the things it DOESN'T conflict with, it works.

The thing you quoted from HH in no way contradicts Ganon being more powerful than Demise.

stuff besides game evidence isn't headcanon, ignoring everything BUT game evidence is ignorant.

Wrong. If there is no evidence for it in-game, then it is made up. If the thing is true, you should be able to show me where you got it from in the game.

All the things you don't take seriously, I do.

Interviews especially, guidebooks not so much, but I 100% take Hyrule Historia as the highest canon, comparable to the game's themselves.

Continuity errors abound, but for the things it DOESN'T conflict with, it works.

Jesus Christ... The Hyrule Historia is full of kindergarten-level errors. It takes liberties that are completely non-existent in the Zelda-universe. It has 0 authority on canon; even Aonuma disclaims the book in his interview at the end of it, admitting that it is full of contradictions. If you use the HH as your bible, you're gonna feel sad when someone takes the truth from the games and proves it wrong.

The thing is we have so much more onscreen footage for feats with Ganondorf than we do with Demise, so it's far easier to make a case for Ganondorf than Demise. Ganondorf also has transformations that are far bigger than the form of Demise that we see. So far, I'm giving this match-up to Ganondorf, but I am definitely willing to be proven wrong.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
You are an imbecile. 🙂