Aquaman vs. Captain America/Black Panther/Iron Spider

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, but that means he can withstand far more power than Arthur is capable of with his shield.

No, Am was leveled by Mantas dad and just took it. Acting like Cap cannot **** him up is retardation.

BP is very well protected by his suit. This team beats the shit out of him. Your MCU hating ass cannot change the minds of the intelligent.

No acting like Cap can do anything to stop Arthur grabbing his shield off him is retardation.

Ah yes youre showing your true corporate allegiance to Disney once again proving you have no objectivity and should not be allowed near a versus thread.

Now go back to sucking Mickey Mouses cock.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And the water is supposed to make the difference between lifting a car and lifting a Submarine?

He didn't exactly lift the submarine. I've edited my above answer to cover this. But basically, Aquaman swims like a torpedo underwater. Whatever force allows him to swim so powerfully was what allowed him to push that submarine. As what he did was basically swim that submarine to the surface. It's not like he benchpressed the thing. He certainly didn't grab it by the tail and toss it.

And since this fight takes place on land, that swimming ability won't be part of his skillset.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No acting like Cap can do anything to stop Arthur grabbing his shield off him is retardation.

Ah yes youre showing your true corporate allegiance to Disney once again proving you have no objectivity and should not be allowed near a versus thread.

Now go back to sucking Mickey Mouses cock.

I am not alone in saying these three beat Arthur. If you had any objectivity you would realize Cap resisting a guy who can resist a Star with his shield is amazing. They beat the shut out of him. Mantas dad put him dead but they allowed him the time to recover.

Cap is useless here.

Get off this forum you Disney worshipper. Objectivity is needed here which you dont have.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Cap is useless here.

Get off this forum you Disney worshipper. Objectivity is needed here which you dont have.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Cap is useless here.

Get off this forum you Disney worshipper. Objectivity is needed here which you dont have.

I think Cap has no chance of defeating Arthur alone. But he can definitely pester him like he did Loki or IM, and that much distraction will be a big help for the other two members of the group.

D. Thor isnwing exposed for being the anti MCU and Disney hating troll we know him to be.

Aquaman punches a hole through Cap, TBH.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Aquaman punches a hole through Cap, TBH.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
um spectre please answer.....

bp's suit is not metallic vibranium. its the mesh form, meaning it will do well against blunt force,but against something that can pierce or tear, i dont think so. And arthurs trident i believe is sharp enough to do damage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has the strength to affect him.

No he doesnt Lmao

Get back to Mickey Mouse. You have no objectivity to be on this forum. You should change your username to Joke.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on? Did he punch a hole through the humans?

Get outta here. Get Back to giving The Mouse more Head you Joke.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think Cap has no chance of defeating Arthur alone. But he can definitely pester him like he did Loki or IM, and that much distraction will be a big help for the other two members of the group.

Nah. Loki was clearly toying with him. IM injured and holding back for the most part. Even if Arthur punches the shield it would likely send Cap flying back the way rockets and grenade launchers sent him back in WS and CW.

Chances are though as soon as Arthur grabs Cap (which wont be too difficult) Cap is dead.

I forgot about the Homecoming scene where Spidey holds the ship together. Problem with Spidey is he jobs too much. But im beginning to think him and BP together have a shot here.

Cap is useless though. Pulling down a helicopter is simply not enough strength to compete on this level.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No he doesnt Lmao

Get back to Mickey Mouse. You have no objectivity to be on this forum. You should change your username to Joke.

Get outta here. Get Back to giving The Mouse more Head you Joke.

He can block the power of Thor which is far greater. Objectivity is my shield.

More pointless insults conceding the debate.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
arthur kept up with orm in water.while he didnt show such immense speed&reflexes on land, his speed&reflexes is enough to go toe-to-toe with panther.

bp's suit is not metallic vibranium. its the mesh form, meaning it will do well against blunt force,but against something that can pierce or tear, i dont think so. And arthurs trident i believe is sharp enough to do damage.

all right but can Arthur deal with T'Challa's speed?

Even if Arthur tags him, the suit will just absorb the blows though..

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah. Loki was clearly toying with him. IM injured and holding back for the most part. Even if Arthur punches the shield it would likely send Cap flying back the way rockets and grenade launchers sent him back in WS and CW.

Chances are though as soon as Arthur grabs Cap (which wont be too difficult) Cap is dead.

Now you're just exaggerating. Rockets and grenade launchers have a wider area of concussive impact, makes it hard to block them. A punch has a very isolated area of impact. If Cap blocks Aquaman's punch with his shield, it will leave him relatively unharmed just like when he blocked Loki's hits or Warmachine's or Thor's.

Speaking of Warmachine, Cap did outfight him. He outfought Spiderman too. As I already said, Cap stands no chance against Aquaman solo, but saying he's completely useless in this fight is juat incorrect. For all of Aquaman's strength and durability he still only weighs under 300 lbs, and that's a weight that Cap can still easily knock off his feet.

Cap won't win the match for the team, but he'll work as a good distraction.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
all right but can Arthur deal with T'Challa's speed?

Even if Arthur tags him, the suit will just absorb the blows though..

Originally posted by FrothByte
So we agree that Arthur is tougher than Cap but not necessarily BP.

Sort of. Arthur's durability is his own. BP's is tech-reliant. And while BP's resistance to outright attempts to harm him is very high for a hero of his power level, have we seen how well it could protect him from, say, Arthur using strength vastly superior to BP's to strangle him or snap his neck?

Yet the kind of strength you're attributing him isn't reflected in his movie. If he was that strong then a love tap from him would squash a human into a bloody pulp.

Wow, a superhero holding back so they don't dismember normal humans with their bare hands? What a novel concept. 😂

From the fight in the submarine, we know that this isn't the case. So based on pure feats, could you remember any strength feat he did outside of water that clearly puts him above Spiderman?

Is he stronger in water? Does his Atlantean physique give him some ability that shields him from the crushing sea pressures of the trench?

BTW, this is not a challenge. I'm honestly willing to be convinced if there are actual feats out there.

But only if they happen on land? Why?

I originally wrote a long paragraph countering your points one by one,

It would have ended about as poorly as your attempts to discredit Deadpool's speed feats in the Mutants vs. Super Soldiers thread.

until I realized that I didn't need to since if guys like Black Manta can land hits on Aquaman, then obviously he doesn't have some kind of super enhanced reflexes like you're implying.

Was Black Manta wearing his suit?

And if not, so what? Then Black Manta is also approaching that level of reflexes.

Cap, with his shield, was able to damage IM with enough hits. IM is tough enough to take tank shells without damage. Aquaman was knocked down (almost for a 10 count) by a grenade launcher.

Is he uniquely weak to bullets and other firearms like Wonder Woman in the film?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that every hit Cap launches will hurt Aquaman, but I don't think he can just stand there either and allow Cap to wail on him with his shield.

Sure. But Cap by comparison can be quickly skewered or beaten down.

Ah, and this explains a lot. Go watch the movie first, then we can talk.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sort of. Arthur's durability is his own. BP's is tech-reliant. And while BP's resistance to outright attempts to harm him is very high for a hero of his power level, have we seen how well it could protect him from, say, Arthur using strength vastly superior to BP's to strangle him or snap his neck?

Originally posted by NemeBro

Wow, a superhero holding back so they don't dismember normal humans with their bare hands? What a novel concept. 😂

Pretty sure you don't throw a heavy, metal hatch door like a frisbee at a human's face if you're holding back.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Is he stronger in water? Does his Atlantean physique give him some ability that shields him from the crushing sea pressures of the trench?

But only if they happen on land? Why?

There's nothing specific that shows he's stronger on land. However, that submarine feat was accomplished by his swimming prowess, not his lifting strength. As in he pushed it by latching on to it and swimming it towards the surface... and it is shown in the movie how ridiculously powerful a swimmer he is.

Last I checked, he can't swim like that on land.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Was Black Manta wearing his suit?

And if not, so what? Then Black Manta is also approaching that level of reflexes.

Black Manta was wearing his suit, but nothing about that suit showed or said that his speed and reflexes were enhanced. In fact, Black Manta was able to land hits on Arthur even without his suit earlier in the movie. It shows that Aquaman's speed and reflexes on land is nothing superhuman. Any assumptions on your part is just that: Assumptions.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Is he uniquely weak to bullets and other firearms like Wonder Woman in the film?

No, in fact it's clearly shown that he's pretty resistant to bullets and firearms. He still got knocked down for the count by a grenade launcher. In comparison, BP took 2 exploding arrows to the face and it barely fazed him. Cap was still able to knock down BP with his hits.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Sure. But Cap by comparison can be quickly skewered or beaten down.

If he was alone and unarmed, yes. I think I've repeated multiple times now that Cap on his own can't defeat Aquaman. I give him a minute max against Aquaman on his own. In fact, I'd back Aquaman to win against any of these three in a 1v1 fight, even BP. But then, they aren't alone in this fight.

Anyway, it seems silly to me that you're debating in this thread without actually watching the movie first. Majority of the questions you're asking me is easily answerable by the movie. I suggest you watch it first before getting too assertive with your stance in this thread.

Nemebro, watch the movie you poor biased bastard. Debating on topics you are pretty much ignorant on is a true sign of the deranged. Manta just needed Atlantan weaponry to be a threat to Aquaman. Funy thing is a blatant superhuman such as Cap with his shield apparently cannot hurt Arthur according to fanboy D. Thor.