Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But she has so few appearances. Its like complaining that the only time Doomsday has appeared, he's 'only' crushed the Justice League, lol.
I don't think we are limiting the feats post flashpoint since op didn't specify the version. at least I'm using wildstorm version of team 1. also apollo and midnighter have even less appearances.
This was Mera's best feat in the last decade. the league was trying to calm her down. They were not fighting the best of their abilities. the league jobs so much beating them is really not big of a deal. They can one minute deal with skyfather level beings the next min lose to deathstroke or batman. but in a forum fight at least 4 of the league members can solo team 2. Apollo's powerset means if he fight smart he will take little to no damage from team 2. long range energy projection pair with superspeed, plus midnighter's strategize from battle computer is not something they can overcome with.
Originally posted by MrMind
I don't think we are limiting the feats post flashpoint since op didn't specify the version. at least I'm using wildstorm version of team 1. also apollo and midnighter have even less appearances.This was Mera's best feat in the last decade. the league was trying to calm her down. They were not fighting the best of their abilities. the league jobs so much beating them is really not big of a deal. They can one minute deal with skyfather level beings the next min lose to deathstroke or batman. but in a forum fight at least 4 of the league members can solo team 2. Apollo's powerset means if he fight smart he will take little to no damage from team 2. long range energy projection pair with superspeed, plus midnighter's strategize from battle computer is not something they can overcome with.
If no version is specified, we use the current versions, basic forum rule.
Deathstroke and Batman are seen to be PIS and jobbing, because they have showings of their own where 90% of the time, these two struggle with random mooks.
But Mera doesn't have these lower showings.
It's like if I created a character called.....Mogol Maar. And had him defeat Superman in his few appearances.
Did Superman job to Mogol?
This is why I said when a character has few appearances (like Mera), fights count more. When they become established, then feats count for more.
Mera is still in that stage where her fights establish her. She's not WW, who's been around since the 40s in popular culture.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If no version is specified, we use the current versions, basic forum rule.Deathstroke and Batman are seen to be PIS and jobbing, because they have showings of their own where 90% of the time, these two struggle with random mooks.
But Mera doesn't have these lower showings.
It's like if I created a character called.....Mogol Maar. And had him defeat Superman in his few appearances.
Did Superman job to Mogol?
This is why I said when a character has few appearances (like Mera), fights count more. When they become established, then feats count for more.
Mera is still in that stage where her fights establish her. She's not WW, who's been around since the 40s in popular culture.
current version of apollo and midnighter is nowhere to be found, nobody gives two shit about new52 wildstorm characters their stories suck balls. so good luck debating these characters only zack care about
You saying Mera like she's a new character when she been around for decades appearing in aquaman comics
first time I read about her was in blackest night
still haven't heard any strategies of mera on taking apollo down. but keep bringin up that JL feat though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait n52 Midnighter has tons of feats and showings. Has his own solo issue, guest starred in Bat books etc. He's been around since 2011.Even in Rebirth, there was a Midnighter and Apollo series.
And she IS a new character. N52 Mera doesn't get pre Flashpoint Mera feats.
I wouldn't call that tons of feats also they are def less powerful than their wildstorm counterpart from what I've seen them on stormwatch
on the other hand mera has an upgrade compare to her previous era
not gonna debate the post flashpoint version of the midnighter and apollo since I have read little of their stories
as long as we agreed pre flashpoint version of team 1 beat team 2 we are good
Originally posted by MrMind
I wouldn't call that tons of feats also they are def less powerful than their wildstorm counterpart from what I've seen them on stormwatch
on the other hand mera has an upgrade compare to her previous era
not gonna debate the post flashpoint version of the midnighter and apollo since I have read little of their storiesas long as we agreed pre flashpoint version of team 1 beat team 2 we are good
What I meant was, he's had quite a lot of appearances. Plenty of time to collect feats (and he has).
Still not seeing a defense against almost instantaneously dehydrating them.....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What I meant was, he's had quite a lot of appearances. Plenty of time to collect feats (and he has).Still not seeing a defense against almost instantaneously dehydrating them.....
wouldn't know most of these feats myself, but from what i've seen midnighter went from someone who kick tank shell and take on herald level beings to be barely above batman.
hydrokinesis not gonna work on apollo since his body is sustained by solar energy, he doesn't need water to live. midnighter able to door his way out if he sense/precog attack coming his way
Originally posted by MrMind
wouldn't know most of these feats myself, but from what i've seen midnighter went from someone who kick tank shell and take on herald level beings to be barely above batman.hydrokinesis not gonna work on apollo since his body is sustained by solar energy, he doesn't need water to live. midnighter able to door his way out if he sense/precog attack coming his way
Sooo you dont know anything about the characters being debated yet presume to say who wins?
Originally posted by MrMind
lol knew this was coming
are you dense or something, I was talking about pre flashpoint team 1, try to keep up. NOW do YOU know anything about wildstorm? guess not
Then you should use pre Flashpoint team 2.
Hand of the Waterbearer. That would rip Bendix's little toys right out.
i'm not sure draining water from apollo would work either tbh. not sure what his body needs to survive. does he eat and drink like a normal human? if he does it could work but who knows how quickly it would affect him. if he blitzes not sure she'd be trying to dehydrate him anyway, and if she did the blitz would likely still kill her before her attack killed him.... or midnighter could port behind and just stab her or shoot her through the head i guess. ds is def wanking her, but she is pretty hard to counter. these guys could do so though i think.