CaV: AncientPower (Exar Kun) vs. DarthCaedus77 (Darth Caedus) v2
Lets try this again... No trolling this time.
Rules remain the same;
> Both Combatants in their Primes
> Takes place in the Petranaki Arena
> 15m Starting Distance
> Malak >> Kun Scaling Arguments are limited to 1 paragraph (up to 150 words) for each debater. Try not to make it the main point.
So AP realised that it's opener was garbage after getting one shotted by me in 4 sentences then started back peddling so hard and claimed it was trolling (It really wasn't). This debate is beneath me, AP is beneath me, Kun is beneath Caedus and I frankly have no reason to continue. You guys can label it as me being "scared" if you want but tbh IDC. Now to work on my power of Jacen blog, something I actually give a shit about.
I posted two lots of bait and you bit so hard the fvcking hook broke. Admit you're a ***** and that you know you can't face me, and thus lose any right to contest me in the future or shut up and let me post a proper opener. (Though let's be honest you'd probably never reply after seeing how laughably out of your depth you are) Two choices, take your pick.
Originally posted by AncientPower
I posted two lots of bait and you bit so hard the fvcking hook broke. Admit you're a ***** and that you know you can't face me, and thus lose any right to contest me in the future or shut up and let me post a proper opener. (Though let's be honest you'd probably never reply after seeing how laughably out of your depth you are) Two choices, take your pick.
Bait... Seriously?
Dude you acted like it was some irrefutable line of scaling and got really salty when people said your opener was bad. Now you're playing it off like trolling. Just admit when you do stupid shit AP. It'd make people like you a lot more.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Why the **** would I seriously post that as my sole opener? I posted it to see how he'd react and he hypocritically replied in the same way that he called me out for when I refute Malak scaling horse manure.You're both feckin' delusion, must run in the family.
You'd post that as your opener because you're retarded and won't let Kun die. Face it all his crowning achievements have been debunked and all that's left is a quote which puts him vastly below Malak which you've consistently failed to debunk.
You might as well dig your grave or pick yourself up and rep someone else.
"Let the past die" AP. Kun is dead.
RIP Exar Kun: 1994-2018
Originally posted by HP Legend
You'd post that as your opener because you're retarded and won't let Kun die. Face it all his crowning achievements have been debunked and all that's left is a quote which puts him vastly below Malak which you've consistently failed to debunk.You might as well dig your grave or pick yourself up and rep someone else.
"Let the past die" AP. Kun is dead.
RIP Exar Kun: 1994-2018
That is an awfully complicated way of saying you're too shit scared to debate me on it. Genetics.
Originally posted by AncientPower
That is an awfully complicated way of saying you're too shit scared to debate me on it. Genetics.
It's not my debate to engage in so how can I be scared lmao? I'm actually perfectly willing to discuss the Malak>Kun quote with you. Just PM or set up a thread and we can talk about it.
He also wore a vocal mask that may have concealed a form of cybernetic life-support. Did it provide him with powers far greater than even Exar Kun or Freedon Nadd, or was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation?
Read this, over and over, and you'll reach the same conclusion I did. Because literally nothing here even infers the Force, never mind references it. The only context given to what form these 'powers' take is 'cybernetic enhancement' in the form of 'life support'.
Note that, once again, the very same source postulates that something is effecting his survivability and that, again, it might be due to something hidden that is linked to his mask:
Malak ignores the [the first effects] of any kind of damage. Whether this is due to hidden armor linked to his voice mask or the physical result of Sith alchemy is anyone's guess.―Wizards of the Coast: Darth Malak
Here's what I think it refers to, given that sole line of context:
The Sith Lord had grotesquely adapted the Rakatan device to draw energy directly from chained Jedi captives. He replenished his life force from the captives by draining theirs. Malak was nearly unstoppable, but the Republic emerged from that epic conflict victorious, as the Star Forge was eventually destroyed.―Star Wars Databanks: Darth Malak
Obviously the object it ponders was the Star Forge, they simply weren't spoiling the ending of KotOR:
"The Star Forge is more than just a space station. In some ways, it is like a living creature. It hungers. And it can feed on the dark side that is within all of us! Look around you, Revan. See the bodies? You should recognize them from the Academy. These are Jedi who fell when I attacked Dantooine. For all intents and purposes dead, except for one difference: I have not let them become one with the Force. Instead I have brought them here. The Star Forge corrupts what remains of their power and transfers the dark taint to me! You cannot beat me, Revan. Not here on the Star Forge. Not when I can draw upon the power of all these Jedi! And once you are beaten I will do the same to you. You will be trapped in a terrible existence between life and death, your power feeding me as I conquer the galaxy!"
―Darth Malak
The major endgame battle plot twist is that Malak can drain Jedi captives throughout his battle with Revan to support his own life and ignore fatal wounds, essentially making him immortal. In game you literally have to prevent him from doing this or he goes back to full HP.
People seem to forget that the entire point of the web enhancement was to translate Darth Malak's KotOR abilities into abilities he has in the roleplaying game.
What's worse is that the quote makes little sense otherwise, and also shows Cory isn't a moron who understands the use of plurals and singulars:
"An imposing figure with ghostly pale features, prominent Sith tattoos, a gleaming red lightsaber, and devastating Dark Side power, Malak struck terror into the hearts of his former allies. He also wore a vocal mask that may have concealed a form of cybernetic life-support. Did it provide him with powers far greater than even Exar Kun or Freedon Nadd, or was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation?"
His actual dark side power has already been described as 'devastating'. It'd be horrendous writing for the vocal mask description to be talking about the same thing.
My two cents.