Originally posted by Haschwalth
There is no evidence to suggest, the Outlander is even close to Valkorion. Let Alone SWTOR Vitiate.
There's plenty of evidence to support him being close to SWTOR Vitiate.
And yes there is no evidence to support him being close to Valkorion but the thing is there is no evidence to support Revan being close to Valkorion either.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
There is no evidence to suggest, the Outlander is even close to Valkorion. Let Alone SWTOR Vitiate.
I’m confused by the structure of this sentence. It seems as though you’re implying that SWTOR Vitiate is actually MORE powerful than Valkorion, which is blatantly untrue. Revan having a degree of parity with SWTOR Vitiate does not definitively put him above the Outlander.
Skillz is making a lot of good points here, problem is is that unlike Outlander, Revan scales directly far above Kun as well.
Revan >>> Malak >> Kun
You'd be hard pressed to scale Outlander above Kun and that's where he falters. You have the Kun beaters and you have the people who can't relate to Kun in any way, and Revan is the former.
If you need reasons why that's important, AP just made a sick respect thread to explain it.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Skillz is making a lot of good points here, problem is is that unlike Outlander, Revan scales directly far above Kun as well.Revan >>> Malak >> Kun
You'd be hard pressed to scale Outlander above Kun and that's where he falters. You have the Kun beaters and you have the people who can't relate to Kun in any way, and Revan is the former.
If you need reasons why that's important, AP just made a sick respect thread to explain it.
Arcann had sufficient strength to tank FLS of Valkorion, and the latter had to switch his tactics to overwhelm Arcann. Revan (Reborn) was not up to the task in coping with the FLS of Valkorion's inferior incarnation centuries earlier. These are demonstrations of RAW POWER of the defending characters, and provide a solid basis for comparison. And Revan would at his finest in Reborn phase rather than in splintered condition.
Valkorion significantly enhanced the powers of the Outlander at a later stage, enabling him to defeat Arcann and even Valyin on separate occasions. However, Valkorion's endgame was to transform the Outlander into a vessel of great power which would be suitable for housing his spirit in full capacity without collapsing.
There is arguably a means of comparison there, as it’s unclear if Spirit Valk and mid-KOTFE Outlander combining their powers < Novel Vitiate, not to mention the relative performance between the two. That said, SoR Revan is a different animal from Novel Revan, and it’s equally possible that Novel Vitiate >> Valk-amped Outlander
Originally posted by MythLord
And yet she's incapable of disintegrating Arcann with his defenses down when Unchained? mmmBTW, who exactly are you referring to?
Really have no proof that:
A: Arcann”s defenses were down (given Vaylin heard Valkorion’s warning to the Outlander, it’s not implausible that Arcann did, as Valkorion can and has appeared to him as well multiple times)
B: She was “incapable of disintegrating Arcann” because she only instantly KO”d him, not disintegrated him, while also in a nebulous state of power (“even now my daughter is still a threat”).
Im referring to KotET Chapter 7 Outlander. While Vaylin is in the process of breaking her chains and her power begins to race out of control, it runs rampant throughout the sanitarium, and the Outlander/Jarak/Lana have to escape to the Emperor”s Vault to avoid the energies. Outlander states that these energy beams would have “blasted us into ash,” and Jarak states they would have been “disintegrated” by the energy beams.