Hulk runs a JLA gauntlet!!

Originally posted by carver9
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Here is the end of the fight...

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I think Mera and Aquaman did d*** good and was holding their own, physically. By the end of it, all of them were ok without a scratch. I think what I said was spot on.

Showing people scans only works if they haven't seen them before. And they back up your point, which those don't.

Just stop lying. That's all I'm asking you to do. It shouldn't be hard.

i don't think he's lying tbh, he just...genuinely doesn't see what most of us do. i wonder if his pov is based entirely on preconceived bias, or if it's a form of anti-fanboyism (in response to abhi for example) or if it's simply a comprehension thing. i've always been amazed by pov's of certain forum members and what shapes them.

of course it COULD just be lying. /shrug

Hercules was able to move half the earth's mass, making him as strong as Post Crisis Superman (who needed Green Lantern's help moving the earth).

Immortal Hulk literally flexed Hercules and Jane Foster Thor off his body, that's how much stronger he is to people of that level of strength.

Avengers Jane is a bad example. She doesn't even act like Jane Foster, what with the super diva personality she was using.

People forget that Hulk could always flex Herc off:

It's nothing new. Anyway,this isn't a benchpressing competition - strength isn't all there is to it.

Hulk is too slow and too limited, IMO, to deal with this gauntlet. XLR8, you can scale off Black Panther tagging Hulk if you want.

Black Panther can tag Hulk, the same way Batman can tag Wonder Woman.

I never mentioned speed, because everyone can hit everyone with plot, according to Darksaint, but strength scaling is how the writers show one character is stronger than another. Hercules still moved half earth, and Hulk is far stronger than that. Debate that.

Originally posted by cdtm
Avengers Jane is a bad example. She doesn't even act like Jane Foster, what with the super diva personality she was using.

Same book, Hercules assisted in moving planetary objects. The same freaking book Hulk flexed them off of him and Jane was said to be just as strong. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hercules was able to move half the earth's mass, making him as strong as Post Crisis Superman (who needed Green Lantern's help moving the earth).

Immortal Hulk literally flexed Hercules and Jane Foster Thor off his body, that's how much stronger he is to people of that level of strength.

Hercs strength is downplayed a lot due to his shenanigans. I dont think he's at his optimal strength level at the moment

Originally posted by cdtm
Avengers Jane is a bad example. She doesn't even act like Jane Foster, what with the super diva personality she was using.

Pretty much

As far as the thred goes he would make it past Vic if bfr is on or not simply because that's not his style to bfr people and ive never seen him do it offensively. Flash is tricky and unless he applies SF tricks he'd lose as well. The rest is easy up till Hal. Whom he'd beat but hed be in a fight. Hed lose to Diana or barely win and Supes would stop him by next round casually.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which wouldn't defeat him:

CIS isn't that much of an issue, either.

Not using some made-up version. I have backed every statement I have made up with scans.

Here, against Dr Polaris, it is clear that he considers BFR a valid tactic:
https://i.imgur.com/ncC5PQp.jpg

He takes control of all communications on EArth in 10 mins:
https://imgur.com/a/HMSAN

And he's pretty smart in battle:
https://imgur.com/a/iWMLr

So forget all that back and forth with abhi and Pr and others. Vic alone is enough to take Hulk out. Even more so with Immortal Hulk.

Aaahhhhh, we are debating like this. I take back my statement, Vic gets destroyed since he can't bfr Hulk since Hulk is able to bypass bfring. Also, I dont get the purpose of your scans. How did he beat the two he was fighting and he isn't rewriting Hulks DNA. Already tried and his rage bypassed that type of attack.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hercules was able to move half the earth's mass, making him as strong as Post Crisis Superman (who needed Green Lantern's help moving the earth).

Immortal Hulk literally flexed Hercules and Jane Foster Thor off his body, that's how much stronger he is to people of that level of strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that "50 earth weight"? Its again a conservative estimate at best.

Look what Starbreaker says in this scan.

"The power of countless red suns flows through my veins."

And that's not a hyperbole as we know he is an evolved sun-eater and has actually consumed the energy of suns.

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That was just two issues later.

And yet, Superman and Hal stalemating him completely depowered him.

So if we take "countless" as even two suns, that's [b]way more power than what h1 is using. I know its ludicrous, but facts are facts.

srug [/B]

That's so much beyond what Hercules did, it's not even funny.

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't think he's lying tbh, he just...genuinely doesn't see what most of us do. i wonder if his pov is based entirely on preconceived bias, or if it's a form of anti-fanboyism (in response to abhi for example) or if it's simply a comprehension thing. i've always been amazed by pov's of certain forum members and what shapes them.

of course it COULD just be lying. /shrug

not in the same way. look back at his early posts. he's changed over the years. kmc has beaten him down, man...

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... magic can be applied differently though.

It still weakens him.

He wasn't amped ABHI and you posting a scan of him getting a boost in the air right after him admitting he can't fly doesn't take away from this.

Yes, he was. That's how he went from unable to scratch the robots to destroying them.

All of the league took out the robots and when did Superman take them out? I hope you're not talking about the scene where Batman assisted in throwing a large piece of metal at the center which deactivated all of the robots resulting in Superman throwing non active machines off of himself? I'm hoping this isn't the scene you're talking about.

Hey idiot, Batman threw a large piece of metal to get Superman sunlight as he was bathed in red sunlight. After which Superman destroyed all the robots and their power source.

Why did he block the sun abhi? Think about it.

Again idiot, if Eclipso was so vulnerable to sunlight, why didn't the ****ing sun destroyed his shadows?

Originally posted by leonidas
not in the same way. look back at his early posts. he's changed over the years. kmc has beaten him down, man...

I'd guess it's been building because of a combination of things:

1. The New52 Earth pressing feat, and a general powering up of Superman.

2. A lot of the "Anti-Superman" and "Pro Hulk" base moved out.

3. Death Battle tea bagging his favorites (it's like the cast of Death Battle lurks here, and makes their outcomes specifically to troll Carver9)

Originally posted by leonidas
not in the same way. look back at his early posts. he's changed over the years. kmc has beaten him down, man...

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Black Panther can tag Hulk, the same way Batman can tag Wonder Woman.

I never mentioned speed, because everyone can hit everyone with plot, according to Darksaint, but strength scaling is how the writers show one character is stronger than another. Hercules still moved half earth, and Hulk is far stronger than that. Debate that.

Not talking about speed 😛

My point was that a street-ish/meta tier level character like BP was able to do more damage to Hulk than anyone else (up until Project Helios fired).

Moreover, when he flexed Jane and Herc off, he was amped. I don't think he still has that amp now.

And whatever do you mean, 'according to Darksaint'? Lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Aaahhhhh, we are debating like this. I take back my statement, Vic gets destroyed since he can't bfr Hulk since Hulk is able to bypass bfring. Also, I dont get the purpose of your scans. How did he beat the two he was fighting and he isn't rewriting Hulks DNA. Already tried and his rage bypassed that type of attack.

Like what?

I said X, and backed it up with a scan.

Cyborg has far FAR fewer showings than Hulk. Agree, Y/N?

So even if he has one, or two, that weighs as an average far FAR more than Hulk.

No one said he is rewriting Hulk's DNA?

But even IF I did.....how did the Gamma Corps snap WWH's neck?

Originally posted by Sin I AM

As far as the thred goes he would make it past Vic if bfr is on or not simply because that's not his style to bfr people and ive never seen him do it offensively. Flash is tricky and unless he applies SF tricks he'd lose as well. The rest is easy up till Hal. Whom he'd beat but hed be in a fight. Hed lose to Diana or barely win and Supes would stop him by next round casually.

Here's Vic using BFR offensively:

And again:

...........

Hey you're overselling it Saint?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hey you're overselling it Saint?

Well, my point is that Cyborg isn't stupid. He's not just a geek off the street, he was a star quarterback - he knows tactics and offensive plays.

Now, he's also able to run through scenarios and perform complex calcs.

IOW, he's sharp as hell.

In a direct fist to fist, h2h confrontation? Of course he's going to get creamed by Hulk.

There are two rounds here. Round 1 has CIS on. 2, CIS/CIP is off.

Round 2 I won't bother with. But with round 1 - as Hulk is literally eating him alive or whatever, or he's tanking Cyborg's best punches....you really think this genius IQ, tactically aware guy is going to let it happen?

Here he's adapting to new information and figuring things out in nanoseconds:

And here he just....adapts:

In short, I don't think the Hulk can capitalise on CIS to win.

It's funny how once the discussion got going, it's Cyborg who'd speedblitz Hulk.