Ares vs. MCU Ultron

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
....Etri's words aren't to be taken literal.

So if a character in a movie says, "Im about to eat this candy bar"
And the next scene we see the character put the candy bar in their mouths and we see them chew it".
We are not suppose to take the characters words literal right? The character didnt really eat the candy bar according to some right?

This is exactly what happened in the Thor , Eitri, Star scene.

Would people on here be saying "Well I dont know if the character ate the candy bar, we didnt see them swallow the candy bar and then we dont know if their stomachs digested the candy bar." "They could have spit it out when the camera wasnt on them"

This is the kind of nonsense some people on here say.

Originally posted by Inhuman
So if a character in a movie says, "Im about to eat this candy bar"
And the next scene we see the character put the candy bar in their mouths and we see them chew it".
We are not suppose to take the characters words literal right?

This is exactly what happened in the Thor , Eitri, Star scene.

Would people on here be saying{i} "Well I dont know if the character ate the candy bar, we didnt see them swallow the candy bar and then we dont know if their stomachs digested the candy bar." "They could have spit it out when the camera wasnt on them"[/i]

This is the kind of nonsense some people on here say.

He's purposely misunderstanding what the term full force means.

He’s hilariously misunderstanding it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The difference is that Eitri's statement was followed by Thor standing right next to a neutron star.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
Just as ares statement was followed by him dying at the hands of a god.

Exactly, Ares comment was not followed by any supporting evidence.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
The only people who really hate the feat are DC fans. Everyone else takes it for what it is. The first space cheese feat in the MCU.

Branding them mcu haters or fanboys, shows that you are either one or both of them.

Character statements require proof, no proof was provided for Ares' statement.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The beam [b]represents the full force of the star[/B]

Personally, I don't think Ultron can kill Ares... but I do think he can knock him out. So Ultron wins this match.

Originally posted by Silent Master
no proof was provided for Ares' statement.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
Now you're just ignoring what i said.
You Want Proof???
Ares: Only gods can kill gods.
later ares gets killed by diana, a god based on his statement and her origin.

It’s proof that he can die by a god. It’s not proof that he can only be killed by one.

Lern2proof. 😛

Anyway, why are we even discussing this? This is not a fight to the death.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
Now you're just ignoring what i said.
You Want Proof???
Ares: Only gods can kill gods.
later ares gets killed by diana, a god based on his statement and her origin.

That's poof he can be killed by a God, not proof that he can't be killed by a mortal. You're doing the equivalent of arguing that someone being killed by a bullet to the head is proof that they can only be killed by a bullet to the Head.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's poof he can be killed by a God, not proof that he can't be killed by a mortal. You're doing the equivalent of arguing that someone being killed by a bullet to the head is proof that they can only be killed by a bullet to the Head.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
so have seen someone who's not a god take him on and kill him??
NO!
So for now based on his statement backed up by events that happened later on, he can only be killed by a god. Its now left for other on screen showings to prove that others can get him killed.

How does being killed by WW prove he can't be killed by a mortal?

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does being killed by WW prove he can't be killed by a mortal?

Thought Diana was an Amazon.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thought Diana was an Amazon.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
One, he never fought a mortal based on the movies.
Two, diana herself is a god/demigod.
Three, he didnt die at the hands of a mortal (i'm assuming you mean homo sapiens)

So like I said, How does being killed by WW prove he can't be killed by a mortal?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So like I said, How does being killed by WW prove he can't be killed by a mortal?

Originally posted by Inhuman
So if a character in a movie says, "Im about to eat this candy bar"
And the next scene we see the character put the candy bar in their mouths and we see them chew it".
We are not suppose to take the characters words literal right? The character didnt really eat the candy bar according to some right?

This is exactly what happened in the Thor , Eitri, Star scene.

Would people on here be saying "Well I dont know if the character ate the candy bar, we didnt see them swallow the candy bar and then we dont know if their stomachs digested the candy bar." "They could have spit it out when the camera wasnt on them"

This is the kind of nonsense some people on here say.

A statement must have background evidence for it to be valid. Also, the context of the statement plays an important role in it.

Etri saying that Thor was going to get hit by the full power of a star could just as well be a hyperbole.

The feat contradicts Etri's words, as Thor was exposed to a sector of the full beam. But again, nothing suggests Etri was being literal.

Feats > Statements.

The candy bar analogy is misplaced, as the feat of the person chewing the candy bar supports the person's statement. That would be a valid statement. There is enough evidence to support the statement's validity.