Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm not trolling. I'm genuinely asking. Being nice here, because you complained.
When did I complain? Also, dont change who you are. If you're a grump that goes on the internet bashing peeps to relieve stress, then dont hide it. Be you here. All members and personalities are welcomed.
Originally posted by carver9
When did I complain? Also, dont change who you are. If you're a grump that goes on the internet bashing peeps to relieve stress, then dont hide it. Be you here. All members and personalities are welcomed.
You were hurting pretty bad here:
Originally posted by carver9
Not arguing for anyone here because the majority of you are DC trolls that bash Thor, Hulk and Surfer. There's no convincing anyone here who Hulk would win against. Now I will post showings proving your claims wrong "when i feel like it". Dark already mentioned the showing I was talking about but debating Hulk beating ANYONE against outright DC tards is a waste.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol, it isn't playing victim, you all are killing the forum and dont even know it.
Originally posted by carver9
You can call it that... I think it's weird. Maybe if this was done to someone else it would be impactful but I'm not amused.
I know your response. 'But what I typed was true though', or words to that effect.
So I am trying to actually engage in debate. Honest q. Zzaxx is ALSO an energy being like Monica, and is a big Hulk villain. Am surprised no one mentioned Hulk beating him, that's all.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You were hurting pretty bad here:I know your response. 'But what I typed was true though', or words to that effect.
So I am trying to actually engage in debate. Honest q. Zzaxx is ALSO an energy being like Monica, and is a big Hulk villain. Am surprised no one mentioned Hulk beating him, that's all.
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I was not hurt there. I'm feeling some kind of way now though because it seems as if anytime I mention anything besides Hulk, I'm in my feelings. I've been angry one time on this site and that's when this certain individual went in each thread calling people out of their names, etc... Dark, you do nothing to me. You've been going yrs doing the same thing. I'm use to you...
Monica is more versatile than Zzzax.
Originally posted by leonidasYes, because Monica obviously isn't moving at speeds for which Hulk is a statue, and she can't change her frequency instantly, and Hulk obviously has feats for grabbing every type of energy, and she'd go right into his open hand...
so we are going with the idea that hulk can just....punch out her light form? so...can hulk punch and hold sunlight too?
Oh, wait.
lol i brought up the speed thing only once. didn't seem entirely fair....
re: zzzax: zzzax is actually an energy entity encased in an em field. think something like mag's force field. iow the field is what is actually being punched by hulk. at least that's the way i've always interpreted it. the same can be said for a lot of energy being i'd think. monica is ACTUALLY a living hologram. if hulk CAN in fact hit her, he could in fact punch sunlight. not sure that's an argument i would make, but that does seem to be the best hulk can do in this battle. i dunno, maybe it's just a stalemate if you don't think she can ko him (not you ds, i'm speaking to people in general). /shrug
Originally posted by Philosophía
Yes, because Monica obviously isn't moving at speeds for which Hulk is a statue, and she can't change her frequency instantly, and Hulk obviously has feats for grabbing every type of energy, and she'd go right into his open hand...Oh, wait.
Monica is overrated as f*ck, yeah.
Even Quicksilver had enough smarts to outrun her.
She didn't deserve to get her name stolen by Carl Manvers, though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How does Hulk defeat Zzaxx?
1. Hawkeye, commenting that Hulk's attacks aren't doing anything, saves Hulk via tech arrow.
2. A helicopter pilot saves Hulk via improvised tech which disrupts Zzzax.
3. Banner had enough control over Hulk to use environmental tech to BFR Zzzax into space.
Zzzax was slapping Red Hulk around too.
https://postimg.cc/fVN9FCFH
https://postimg.cc/5H9F90fL
https://postimg.cc/sQvQSNQ2
https://postimg.cc/NyN2Kc0V
https://postimg.cc/hz6J01T1
Zzzax is obscure, but he is as legit as they come. He doesn't care about phsyical damage and can amp off available electricity mid-fight. He's a terrible matchup for most bricks. He's ran into Luke Cage, Cable, Iron Man, She-Hulk and the Avengers too. Same deal. They win with exotic attacks/tech. You aren't just punching him out. There's a reason when Lyra fought those women with the powers of Hulk's 3 greatest foes, one of them had Zzzax's powers.
Zzzax showings are evidence in favor of Monica tbh. Sure, Hulk can punch Zzzax, but it accomplishes nothing. Zzzax always seems like he will win before tech is introduced, and he physically bounces Hulk around like a ping pong ball sometimes.
Zzzax would already beat Hulk. Monica is like Zzzax, except she isn't limited to electricity, moves at light speed, and she's already shown she can phase through Hulk. She's also much more intelligent.
Originally posted by StyleTime
He doesn't. Of the 3 times I'm aware they've fought, Hulk was saved via tech.1. Hawkeye, commenting that Hulk's attacks aren't doing anything, saves Hulk via tech arrow.
2. A helicopter pilot saves Hulk via improvised tech which disrupts Zzzax.
3. Banner had enough control over Hulk to use environmental tech to BFR Zzzax into space.Zzzax was slapping Red Hulk around too.
https://postimg.cc/fVN9FCFH
https://postimg.cc/5H9F90fL
https://postimg.cc/sQvQSNQ2
https://postimg.cc/NyN2Kc0V
https://postimg.cc/hz6J01T1Zzzax is obscure, but he is as legit as they come. He doesn't care about phsyical damage and can amp off available electricity mid-fight. He's a terrible matchup for most bricks. He's ran into Luke Cage, Cable, Iron Man, She-Hulk and the Avengers too. Same deal. They win with exotic attacks/tech. You aren't just punching him out. There's a reason when Lyra fought those women with the powers of Hulk's 3 greatest foes, one of them had Zzzax's powers.
Zzzax showings are evidence in favor of Monica tbh. Sure, Hulk can punch Zzzax, but it accomplishes nothing. Zzzax always seems like he will win before tech is introduced, and he physically bounces Hulk around like a ping pong ball sometimes.
Zzzax would already beat Hulk. Monica is like Zzzax, except she isn't limited to electricity, moves at light speed, and she's already shown she can phase through Hulk. She's also much more intelligent.
Hulk has received so many upgrades after his last fight against zzz, it makes your comment obsolete. He JUST received 2 upgrades. Hulk literally stood in one spot while living lightning poured everything he had at Hulk without Hulk even moving an inch (living lightning has dazed Gladiator). Current Hulk>>>>>>>Classic Hulk.
Originally posted by leonidas
lol i brought up the speed thing only once. didn't seem entirely fair....re: zzzax: zzzax is actually an energy entity encased in an em field. think something like mag's force field. iow the field is what is actually being punched by hulk. at least that's the way i've always interpreted it. the same can be said for a lot of energy being i'd think. monica is ACTUALLY a living hologram. if hulk CAN in fact hit her, he could in fact punch sunlight. not sure that's an argument i would make, but that does seem to be the best hulk can do in this battle. i dunno, maybe it's just a stalemate if you don't think she can ko him (not you ds, i'm speaking to people in general). /shrug
This isn't Hulk obviously, but we saw Axon, a girl with Zzzax's powers, make herself totally intangible when Aberration, a girl with Abomination's powers, tried to hit her.
I can't use it as evidence here, but I see Monica basically doing the same thing tbh.
Originally posted by StyleTime
He doesn't. Of the 3 times I'm aware they've fought, Hulk was saved via tech.1. Hawkeye, commenting that Hulk's attacks aren't doing anything, saves Hulk via tech arrow.
2. A helicopter pilot saves Hulk via improvised tech which disrupts Zzzax.
3. Banner had enough control over Hulk to use environmental tech to BFR Zzzax into space.Zzzax was slapping Red Hulk around too.
https://postimg.cc/fVN9FCFH
https://postimg.cc/5H9F90fL
https://postimg.cc/sQvQSNQ2
https://postimg.cc/NyN2Kc0V
https://postimg.cc/hz6J01T1Zzzax is obscure, but he is as legit as they come. He doesn't care about phsyical damage and can amp off available electricity mid-fight. He's a terrible matchup for most bricks. He's ran into Luke Cage, Cable, Iron Man, She-Hulk and the Avengers too. Same deal. They win with exotic attacks/tech. You aren't just punching him out. There's a reason when Lyra fought those women with the powers of Hulk's 3 greatest foes, one of them had Zzzax's powers.
Zzzax showings are evidence in favor of Monica tbh. Sure, Hulk can punch Zzzax, but it accomplishes nothing. Zzzax always seems like he will win before tech is introduced, and he physically bounces Hulk around like a ping pong ball sometimes.
Zzzax would already beat Hulk. Monica is like Zzzax, except she isn't limited to electricity, moves at light speed, and she's already shown she can phase through Hulk. She's also much more intelligent.
I guess that settles that, then. If comic writers, even during the Silver Age, have been unable to write a story since the 1970s where the Hulk straight beats one of his oldest foes, I doubt we can.
Whilst Carver brings up the point of Hulk having received upgrades, Monica is ALSO Zzaxx, but vastly upgraded. So I don't think there's a way he can win here.