hulk vs monica rambeau--how can hulk win?

Started by The Sorrow8 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure.

"Gamma, got all he can from me"


“All he can” not everything. Why? Because Hulk forcibly stopped him from draining anymore and proceeded to drain his power back before getting distracted stopping him from taking it all like he did with Sasquatch.

Once Hulk started draining his power back Creel ran off and opened the portal after the distraction. Context is your friend.

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Originally posted by The Sorrow
“All he can” not everything. Why? Because Hulk forcibly stopped him from draining anymore and proceeded to drain his power back before getting distracted stopping him from taking it all like he did with Sasquatch.

Once Hulk started draining his power back Creel ran off and opened the portal after the distraction. Context is your friend.


So Hulk was back to full power when he absorbed it back from Creel? I guess he was famished because he was really hungry, don't you?

And that's not what happened.

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Hulk only took back what Creel absorbed at the end but there wasn't any more to be drained hence Hulk said he drained all he could.

“You drain the gamma in me I take it right back, STALEMATE, you ain’t taking ANY MORE of me but i’m gonna take some of you”

It’s pretty self explanatory Abhil no need for the mental gymnastics, Hulk stopped Creel from draining him further and began to take his power back but rather than drain him dry Hulk proceeded to rip Creels spine out and attack him with it. This is the same Creel who in the issue before was able to drain Hulk just from skin to skin contact.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
“You drain the gamma in me I take it right back, STALEMATE, you ain’t taking ANY MORE of me but i’m gonna take some of you”

It’s pretty self explanatory Abhil no need for the mental gymnastics, Hulk stopped Creel from draining him further and began to take his power back but rather than drain him dry Hulk proceeded to rip Creels spine out and attack him with it. This is the same Creel who in the issue before was able to drain Hulk just from skin to skin contact.


So you are saying he only stalemated Creel in energy absorption AFTER he was drained? Because he was surely not at full power as you suggested here.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It’s clearly stated and shown. Creel drains Hulk to an almost husk, once Hulk realises how Creels new powers work, Hulk forcibly stops Creel from draining him and starts to take his energy back.

He was only stalemating Creel AFTER Creel had absorbed pretty much everything he could from Hulk by Hulk's own words.

What do you think "Gamma, got all he can from me" means?

and it was also GAMMA energy. still failing to see how he drains monica if she is in light form....

Yeah, no mention of draining any other type of energy.

So which version do Hulk fans use?

I see current Hulk being used. Who has a massive weakness to solar rads (proof he OBVIOUSLY can't just absorb any and all energy).

Previous Hulks could probably do it. But that's not being argued here.

And previous Hulks nearly died when radioactive Abomination came a calling.....

What types of energies has Hulk absorbed?

Cosmic, when Reed/Beast/Pym etc rejigged the cathexis Ray machine to draw power from the Hulked out heroes (it was mixed with gamma).

Gamma.

That's off the top of my head.

The only thing of note in recent memory is..
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Originally posted by abhilegend
So you are saying he only stalemated Creel in energy absorption AFTER he was drained? Because he was surely not at full power as you suggested here.

He was only stalemating Creel AFTER Creel had absorbed pretty much everything he could from Hulk by Hulk's own words.

What do you think "Gamma, got all he can from me" means?


Smh... It’s pretty simple to follow Abhil read your own scans. Hulk stopped Creel draining him, hence the “got all he could “ line, if he drained Hulk completely like you seem to be implying he wouldn’t still be in Hulk form. There’s also the fact that you seem to be ignoring Hulk (Ewing) spoon feeding the reader about what’s happening in their exchange.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What types of energies has Hulk absorbed?

This version has absorbed gamma energy, and magical energy, other personas have absorbed cosmic energy aswell. Banner absorbed the Kiber radiation which wasn’t gamma and Cho with Banners powers absorbed a nuke off the top of my head.

He also has many examples of interacting/manipulating multiple forms of energy ie punching lightning, holding energy like it’s a solid thing, punching time with no equipment etc.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Smh... It’s pretty simple to follow Abhil read your own scans. Hulk stopped Creel draining him, hence the “got all he could “ line, if he drained Hulk completely like you seem to be implying he wouldn’t still be in Hulk form. There’s also the fact that you seem to be ignoring Hulk (Ewing) spoon feeding the reader about what’s happening in their exchange.

So you are saying that he didn't get his power back from Creel that he absorbed but stopped him from draining further? How's that different from what I said?

Am I misreading the scans because it looked to me that at the end of the scene in i think IH11 that Banner and Hulk were separated. If so even if Creel drained "all he could" Hulk wouldn't revert because back to Banner since there was no Banner to revert to...i could be wrong though

Has somebody mentioned that Hulk has grabbed energy and energy beings before? Also maybe he can generate gamma rays to such extent that it could overload her

Yes, they have. Hulk's ability to grab energy is less important than the energy elemental's ability to ignore physical damage, as shown by Zzzax. Sure, Hulk can throw Zzzax into a building, but it doesnt matter. Zzzax has no body to damage or muscles to fatigue.

With Monica, she's even more versatile, intelligent, already can phase through him, and also moves at lightspeed...

Hulk can't grab her unless she feels lonely and gives him a long hug.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, they have. Hulk's ability to grab energy is less important than the energy elemental's ability to ignore physical damage, as shown by Zzzax. Sure, Hulk can throw Zzzax into a building, but it doesnt matter. Zzzax has no body to damage or muscles to fatigue.

With Monica, she's even more versatile, intelligent, already can phase through him, and also moves at lightspeed...

Hulk can't grab her unless she feels lonely and gives him a long hug.

I dunno if he can hold it he can hurt it, right? Plus if Hulk goes WB that's gonna be too much energy

Is this still going on? How has it not ended in "Not happening" on the first page.

This thread is like the Democratic party's inability to accept they lost to Trump *HAYOOOOOOOOH!"

Here's what I hear every time I read this thread topic: "How can Hulk win, after he's already been defeated? How can cdtm be sober, after he's drunk?"

It's just not logically feasible.