NYC Leftists Ready to Legalize FULL MURDER!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Raptor22
i really hope u see the difference between the 2 scenarios here and u acting like those 2 things are the same is just part of ur usual back and forth with rob.

The argument from some people is that abortion isn't murder cuz it's not a life.

If it's not a life it can't be murdered by *anyone*. So it makes no sense to charge someone with homicide over causing a miscarriage.

If people want to acknowledge "it's a life, and only momma can snuff it out!" I'm cool with it, but I want them to say it. I want it typed out, "Momma can kill it, nobody else can". I'd go along with it.

I am not even joking, I would not make abortion illegal even if it was in my power. I'm just tired of them playing fast and loose with what constitutes a life.

Originally posted by Raptor22
i really hope u see the difference between the 2 scenarios here and u acting like those 2 things are the same is just part of ur usual back and forth with rob.

I wish, truly I do.

Surt's just an anti-abortion mouth breather bringing in irrelevant scenarios and here's the kicker, it's not about "saving a life" which the religious people believe and I can at least respect that angle even if I'm Pro-Choice, he sees it as a way to punish women; that's his drive here. ie "B!tch didn't want a baby; she should have kept her legs closed."

Originally posted by Robtard
I wish, truly I do.

Surt's just an anti-abortion mouth breather bringing in irrelevant scenarios and here's the kicker, it's not about "saving a life" which the religious people believe and I can at least respect that angle even if I'm Pro-Choice, he sees it as a way to punish women; that's his drive here. ie "B!tch didn't want a baby; she should have kept her legs closed."

You're not very bright Rob, you continue to show it. I want you guys to be consistent, that is all. Either it's a life or it's not. I don't care what you choose, but you absolutely do need to choose.

Not my problem if people lack the intelligence to understand why it's hypocritical.

Originally posted by Surtur
The argument from some people is that abortion isn't murder cuz it's not a life.

If it's not a life it can't be murdered by *anyone*. So it makes no sense to charge someone with homicide over causing a miscarriage.

If people want to acknowledge "it's a life, and only momma can snuff it out!" I'm cool with it, but I want them to say it.

On one hand u have a guy who beats a pregnant woman and causes a miscarriage and on the other hand u have a woman who's life/health are in danger and decides to abort.

To make it a more fair comparison they guy in your analogy would have to have his life/health in jeopardy and the cause of it would have to be the pregnant woman, If that were the case then no it wouldnt be murder it would be self defense.

Originally posted by Raptor22
ok but there is an enormous difference between the two scenarios in ur analogy, in which ur acting like they're exactly the same, yet in reality they're massively different.

On one hand u have a guy who beats a pregnant woman and causes a miscarriage and on the other hand u have a woman who's life/health are in danger and decides to abort.

To make it a more fair comparison they guy in your analogy would have to have his life/health in jeopardy and the cause of it would have to be the pregnant woman, If that were the case then no it wouldnt be murder it would be self defense.

Bro, I think it's best you not even bring up abortions that are done due to the womans life being in danger. Its not genuine, because it's so very rare, most abortions are not done over it. It's not a legit argument. Murder is murder. If the womans life is legit in danger its self defense to abort the kid. If she was just too lazy or too stupid to take the pill or use a condom? It's not the same.

Like I said: either it's a life or it's not. If it IS a life, No, momma can't snuff it. What have I said that is controversial here?

You implied the 'whore should have kept her legs close' angle before, granted you use kinder words such as 'why didn't she use a condom, too bad for her' more times than not.

Originally posted by Robtard
You implied the 'whore should have kept her legs close' angle before, granted you use kinder words such as 'why didn't she use a condom, too bad for her' more times than not.

Indeed I feel keep your legs closed or have the dude wear a condom or be on the pill. Legs don't spring open on a reflex, it's a choice.

Point out what I've said that is not accurate. Do women not have a choice about who they f*ck and if protection is used?

Originally posted by Surtur
Bro, I think it's best you not even bring up abortions that are done due to the womans life being in danger. Its not genuine, because it's so very rare, most abortions are not done over it. It's not a legit argument. Murder is murder. If the womans life is legit in danger its self defense to abort the kid. If she was just too lazy or too stupid to take the pill or use a condom? It's not the same.

Like I said: either it's a life or it's not. If it IS a life, No, momma can't snuff it. What have I said that is controversial here?

You're acting like abortions can be had at any time and for any reasons when ouf laws saw otherwise.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're acting like abortions can be had at any time and for any reasons when ouf laws saw otherwise.

I'm just gonna simplify this: a woman who is two months pregnant gets attacked and beaten, she survives, but loses the baby. The perpetrator should be charged with..what crime?

Your answer will tell me all I need to know. I will say this in advance: props to you if you aren't dumb enough to shout "murder!"

Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed I feel keep your legs closed or have the dude wear a condom or be on the pill. Legs don't spring open on a reflex, it's a choice.

Point out what I've said that is not accurate. Do women not have a choice about who they f*ck and if protection is used?

Thank you for proving what I said correct.

Fact: A woman can have sex with a willing partner of her choice with or without protection as many times as she wants and it's none of your* business if she gets pregnant and an abortion is done within our legal scope.

*The only way it would be your business if you're the willing partner. But that's a pretend scenario, so my bad there

Originally posted by Robtard
Thank you for proving what I said correct.

Fact: A woman can have sex with a willing partner of her choice with or without protection as many times as she wants and it's none of your* business if she gets pregnant and an abortion is done within our legal scope.

*The only way it would be your business if you're the willing partner. But that's a pretend scenario, so my bad there

Good stuff Rob, you resort to the same old attacks 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
Good stuff Rob, you resort to the same old attacks 👆

Yes, I resorted to facts, why you did this dodge-like reply instead of countering what I said.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, I resorted to facts, why you did this dodge-like reply instead of countering what I said.

You didn't resort to facts, you resorted to an opinion. Why do I have to point this out to an adult?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just gonna simplify this: a woman who is two months pregnant gets attacked and beaten, she survives, but loses the baby. The perpetrator should be charged with..what crime?

Your answer will tell me all I need to know. I will say this in advance: props to you if you aren't dumb enough to shout "murder!"

Some degree of murder, as per our laws, sporto.

You thought you were clever though, as has been pointed out to you many a time and Raptor22 just did it above, your scenarios are nonsense and not applicable.

"Abortion is legal so I should be allowed to force a woman to miscarriage against her will by beating her!!!" <--- Utter retardation, that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Some degree of murder, as per our laws, sporto.

You thought you were clever though, as has been pointed out to you many a time and Raptor22 just did it above, your scenarios are nonsense and not applicable.

"Abortion is legal so I should be allowed to force a woman to miscarriage against her will by beating her!!!" <--- Utter retardation, that.

So you still wanna play dumb? Okay. Moving on.

Originally posted by Surtur
You didn't resort to facts, you resorted to an opinion. Why do I have to point this out to an adult?

Sorry, it's not an opinion that a woman has the right to have sex with whomever willing partner she chooses and it's none of your business; that's a fact.

Best you deal with it and stop tying to punish women because you can't get laid. That's another fact.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, it's not an opinion that a woman has the right to have sex with whomever willing partner she chooses and it's none of your business; that's a fact.

Best you deal with it and stop tying to punish women because you can't get laid. That's another fact.

Lol your post didn't contain pure facts. It's not even gonna be debated further.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol your post didn't contain pure facts. It's not even gonna be debated further.

Originally posted by Surtur
So you still wanna play dumb? Okay. Moving on.

More dodge-replies because you can't handle the facts.

Hush now son, it's over.

It is, cos you got crushed with facts above. Now seethe some more over it.