hmm, i'm still gonna say tyrant is too much. strange hasn't been as impressive as he has been in the past. even depowered i'd place tyrant well above the likes of challenger. he was able to deal with thanos more easily and effectively than odin did so i've always figured that incarnation of tyrant was still skyfather level and i think that would be too much. interesting though. the ghost rider is a wild card. if we allow him to go full demon that would be their only chance imo.
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i'm still gonna say tyrant is too much. strange hasn't been as impressive as he has been in the past. even depowered i'd place tyrant well above the likes of challenger. he was able to deal with thanos more easily and effectively than odin did so i've always figured that incarnation of tyrant was still skyfather level and i think that would be too much. interesting though. the ghost rider is a wild card. if we allow him to go full demon that would be their only chance imo.
He'd stomp them all with a smile, then hook them up to fill a few orbs.
Originally posted by leonidas
i disagree. in the arc phil is referencing, tyrant had ACCESS to tremendous amounts of power, but he was still biding his time imo. he had collected a huge amount of energy but hadn't yet used it or absorbed it from the spheres.
In an ealier issue his origin was revealed. After his defeat, he had begun collecting orbs of power. Thousands of years passed before his final run in with Galactus. He had myriads of power orbs collected, which made him far more powerful than Galactus. If you took note of their final conflict you'll notice that Galactus fed on a rich planet which was said to have made him feel better than he had felt in a very long time. Tyrant was still killing him. Regardless of what we want to believe Leo, it was canon. Tyrant was a low to mid abstract. His run in with those Heralds was actually childs play for him, and he was only stunned by the Spinster's weapon, because it was made to hurt him.
the fact that he still had the orbs full of power tells you he wasn't at the height of his power... i haven't read the story arc in a long time but just because he fed on a planet doesn't mean galactus was the equal of what he was in the early universe when he beat tyrant. to face the celestials for example, he fed on what? 4 planets or something? who knows how powerful galactus was when he originally beat tyrant. anyway i agree overall--tyrant wins this.
Originally posted by leonidas
the fact that he still had the orbs full of power tells you he wasn't at the height of his power... i haven't read the story arc in a long time but just because he fed on a planet doesn't mean galactus was the equal of what he was in the early universe when he beat tyrant. to face the celestials for example, he fed on what? 4 planets or something? who knows how powerful galactus was when he originally beat tyrant. anyway i agree overall--tyrant wins this.
Correct me if I'm wrong but did you see him actively draining the orbs as a food source, or was he collecting them? His space citadel, or ship was filled with them. If you're only evidenc is that he still had them in his possession, I don't think that it's reason enough to deny that he was more powerful than Galactus. We actually saw him killing a fully satiated Galactus on panel, not to mention that I believe that you're impression of how the orbs worked for him is way off.
No offense Leo, but he had a huge citadel filled with them. Tyrant was a major powerhouse, in terms of being at, or above Galactus' weight class. For example; if he was a Trans tier level character, or even an elite Sky Father of Odin's level back in the 90's before Odin got the Rhino treatment, Galactus would've slapped him in the back of his head, and took Morg back into his service.
Originally posted by carver9
The Hulks are the game changer tbh. Think they are too much, especially pitted together. His blasts would be problematic but he is facing two great healers that is backed by a powerful team.
You're delusional.
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i'm still gonna say tyrant is too much. strange hasn't been as impressive as he has been in the past. even depowered i'd place tyrant well above the likes of challenger. he was able to deal with thanos more easily and effectively than odin did so i've always figured that incarnation of tyrant was still skyfather level and i think that would be too much. interesting though. the ghost rider is a wild card. if we allow him to go full demon that would be their only chance imo.
U should read more strange. Hes the most powerful on the field
Originally posted by Stoic
Glass cannon
Not at all.
Originally posted by leonidas
Last I read strange was the Loki arc where Be became the “sorcerer supreme”. He wasn’t at the height of his powers obviously. If he’s gotten more powerful since I havent seen it. He wasn’t very impressive in the avengers run that I saw. What’s he done?
Currently he has mysterious adversaries after him due to his over indulgence in magic...but some feats include transmuting a dimension, raising a city from the dead, stalemating Mordo/Casey while simultaneously saving civilians and holding back. No-one here has the same level of power save maybe GR but he's a rookie so strange should be above him comfortably
The only people that matters in this fight is...
Hulk
She Hulk
Thor
Strange
The rest are fodder. Hulk is operating above Herald levels (obviously) and She Hulk is just a freaking monster. Tyrant is extremely powerful but taking on 2 Hulks at the same time, that's insane. Strange would be doing his hands, etc... on the side lines while Thor would be engaging as well. I just dont see Tyrant winning this.