2020 Presidential Election Discussion

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Usually those limits end up being, people that disagree with me shouldn't be allowed to speak, keep banning guns until only toy guns are left and then ban those too.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Usually those limits end up being, people that disagree with me shouldn't be allowed to speak, keep banning guns until only toy guns are left and then ban those too.

"Be like The UK", essentially.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Usually those limits end up being, people that disagree with me shouldn't be allowed to speak, keep banning guns until only toy guns are left and then ban those too.

Yeah, that's probably true for some people. What about you, do you think there should be some limits to the first and second amendment, or do you think it should be much more permissive than it is now even?

Barring things like threats or calls for violence, all speech should be legal. as for the 2nd. I don't mind things like background checks. but I'm against banning random guns.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just what positions of mine lead you to believe I'm right wing?

I believe the following political positions of yours make you extreme right winger:

1. Support of Universal Healthcare
2. Support of research into Universal Basic Income
3. Anti-war/colonialism
4. Pro-individual liberty such as the right to have sex with any consenting adult, freedom of expression and speech, etc.
5. Support for responsible environmental policies and anti-pollution/pro-renewable energy.
6. Your support of Yang and Gabbard.

You know, all those far-right positions all those right-wingers usually have.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not openly, but you can usually tell by how they support people being deplatformed and are always talking about banning certain guns.

Neither of these things really even conflict with the 1st and 2nd amendments, let alone betray some yearning for their abolition. Also, these positions (especially that second one) are more commonly held by moderates on the left than by the extremists on the left...

@Artol: I think a handful of the posters here do have pretty moderate policy positions by American standards, but approach things with a reactionary attitude and/or buy into certain right-wing rhetoric (fear-mongering about the left, for example) that gives the impression that they're further to the right than their actual policy positions would suggest in a vacuum. Maybe that could explain why there's a disconnect between how they politically identify and how you perceive them?

As long as you believe that.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
and/or buy into certain right-wing rhetoric (fear-mongering about the left, for example)

Originally posted by Silent Master
As long as you believe [the left's policies aren't motivated by a secret yearning for the abolition of the 1st and 2nd amendments.]

Case in point.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I believe the following political positions of yours make you extreme right winger:

1. Support of Universal Healthcare
2. Support of research into Universal Basic Income
3. Anti-war/colonialism
4. Pro-individual liberty such as the right to have sex with any consenting adult, freedom of expression and speech, etc.
5. Support for responsible environmental policies and anti-pollution/pro-renewable energy.
6. Your support of Yang and Gabbard.

You know, all those far-right positions all those right-wingers usually have.

LoL@ you thinking #4 is not something right-wingers actually believe in. It's modern day leftists that are opposed to individual rights not right-wingers. Individual rights has always been the most basic of conservative beliefs so don't know where you get the idea that the left has always had a monopoly on it.

Also, pretty sure that most conservatives are anti-pollution as well. Know I am. Just compare how clean right-wingers leave a place after mass gathering vs how lefties do lol. It's pretty clear to me that leftists are the ones who don't care about stopping pollution.

The whole climate change thing is just a scam.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Case in point.
👆 that and the support of people like Tommy Robinson, the tarring of non Christian ethnic groups as animals and towel heads etc.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Neither of these things really even conflict with the 1st and 2nd amendments, let alone betray some yearning for their abolition. Also, these positions (especially that second one) are more commonly held by moderates on the left than by the extremists on the left...

@Artol: I think a handful of the posters here do have pretty moderate policy positions by American standards, but approach things with a reactionary attitude and/or buy into certain right-wing rhetoric (fear-mongering about the left, for example) that gives the impression that they're further to the right than their actual policy positions would suggest in a vacuum. Maybe that could explain why there's a disconnect between how they politically identify and how you perceive them?

Leftists extremists want to do away with the first and second amendments at least for those whom they politically oppose, that's a fact . You can deny it till you turn blue but it'll still be the truth, dude.

And LOL@you complaining about right wingers far mongering about those on the left. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT LEFT-WINGERS DO ABOUT THOSE ON THE RIGHT.

Yeah, I know. It's perfectly ok when lefties do it lol. If it wasn't for double standards leftists would have no standards lol.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
Case in point.

Whatever do you mean? Is it not typical center-left behavior to only criticize the left and defend the right at every opportunity?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Whatever do you mean? Is it not typical center-left behavior to only criticize the left and defend the right at every opportunity?
👆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, the poster spectrum for the right here goes something like this.

Ethneo, Fly and Broly (different kinds of extreme right)

Squall X, Surt extreme in different ways but more moderate than the first 3

Silent Master and DDM more moderate and have some liberal ideas, but still very extreme.

Hitler if he were a poster

Then a big gap to the moderate and reasonable right of badabing and snowdragon.

Then the centre right of Imp.

😂

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
LoL@ you thinking #4 is not something right-wingers actually believe in.

Imperialism, colonialism, expansionism, and manifest destiny are Right-Wing Authoritarian concepts.

I apologize if this fact hurts your feelings. Hurting your feelings was not my intention.

Originally posted by Robtard
Artol is some previous poster returned. He's not new; you know this.

I see you're making special stipulations after the fact and claiming victory. Very cowardly as usual.

But since you took up the challenge anyways, I'll make a best of list from star. Here's a classic sample:

Racism: Check
Victim Blaming: Check
Surt losing it now: Check

I'll play along, who is Artol? Which previous poster are they?

You are saying Artol is a previous poster who had a 5 year old post by someone who doesn't even post here anymore...in mind, when she/he made their comments?

Perhaps they can confirm they were thinking of posts from 5 years ago by banned members. Sure as heck sounded to me that he/she was referring to more recent posts, but hey I could be wrong.

I'm not sure who exactly, but he knows all the players and the game.

Good move dodging star's post. I'll let it slide cos it's happy Friday.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm not sure who exactly, but he knows all the players and the game.

Good move dodging star's post. I'll let it slide cos it's happy Friday.

Do I need to repeat some of the questions you dodged?

Yes or no do you feel Artol had 5 year old posts by people who don't post here anymore in mind?

Do you disagree his post came off as referencing recent posts by the current community of posters? Or no?

Your next post lacks answers to these questions? The discussion ends.

In your rush to shitpost and get your pretend wins, you probably missed the answer. here it is again:

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm not sure who exactly, but he knows all the players and the game.

*I am assuming Artol is a male, as the majority of posters on KMC old and newer are males. But he's certainly not a new member.