2020 Presidential Election Discussion

Started by jaden_2.0523 pages

Apparently you do need someone to tell you.

I just did.

Every single poll had Clinton win all three debates.

So when I say the debates didn't matter to the election results I am 100% factually right. And you are 100 factually wrong.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
1st debate

2nd debate

Fox News must be one of those biased lefty news outlets, yeah?

Would you like the other results?

Trump said he won the debates 100%, so that's really all there is to it for Trumpers.

And I agree, the vast majority of people have already made up their mind before this coming debate.

Shame their fellow Fox News viewers disagreed. Never mind. There's always OAN.

Yeah, keep pretend winning, sore losers. Just like y'all did with the 2016 election itself, just like y'all did with Brexit, just like y'all did with the BS impeachment shitshow, and I'm sure just like y'all will with the upcoming election.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Those "polls" prove about as much as the 2016 pre-election polls did. Doesn't matter if it was a FOX poll.

Fact is, I watched the entire debates and you didn't so I'm better suited to make a judgment on who won. I don't need some poll to tell me who won because I watched and listened to the debates myself, unlike you.

He a**-stomped her, dude, and no amount of "nuh-uh" from you is gonna change that, sorry.

You might have watched the whole debates but you believe in made up characters who live in the sky.

Here are the polls that mattered. With very few exceptions, all the polls got their skew wrong from either +2 Trump or +6 Trump.

You can see the effect the debates had on the poll results by date:

The only one of those that applies to me is Brexit and I voted for Brexit.

So you're wrong again. Unsurprisingly.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, keep pretend winning, sore losers. Just like y'all did with the 2016 election itself, just like y'all did with Brexit, just like y'all did with the BS impeachment shitshow, and I'm sure just like y'all will with the upcoming election.
Ah. It's not about facts, "more people are just as dumb as me so I'm right." Good argument, dickhead.

If anyone is wondering, Biden is back in the lead by 1%:

The new national telephone and online survey finds Biden leading President Trump 48% to 47% among Likely U.S. Voters. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate. Just two percent (2%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

The race has narrowed over the past three weeks and is now reminiscent of the closing weeks of the 2016 presidential campaign when Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton seesawed up and down within one or two points of each other in Rasmussen Reports polling.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_sep23

@DDM, that looks like Hillary won.

Originally posted by Blakemore
@DDM, that looks like Hillary won.

Sure, if you were a dumbass and didn't realize that the polls had an incorrect skew towards Hillary by 2-6 points, it would look like Hillary won.

But we all know better and understand that the poll aggregate I posted, above, clearly shows the polling bias that favored Hillary.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sure, if you were a dumbass and didn't realize that the polls had an incorrect skew towards Hillary by 2-6 points, it would look like Hillary won.

But we all know better and understand that the poll aggregate I posted, above, clearly shows the polling bias that favored Hillary.

She won the popular vote. It's literally bad polling in Penn, Michigan and Wisconsin if anything.

Originally posted by Blakemore
She won the popular vote. It's literally bad polling in Penn, Michigan and Wisconsin if anything.

"She won the popular vote!"

The pathetic cry of the sore loser.

And blue is a prettier color than green too and has just as much relevance on who won the debates or the election itself as Hillary supposedly winning the popular vote does.

Originally posted by Blakemore
She won the popular vote. It's literally bad polling in Penn, Michigan and Wisconsin if anything.

This is terribly wrong. It this type of thinking is why the pollsters got it so wrong in 2016.

They pollsters got it wrong, across the board, in almost every state by 2%-6%. Some within their margins of error, some grossly outside of it.

If you remove NY and California, where polling was actually correct, and remove the 2 states where Trump won the most percentage of votes (West Virginia and Nebraska), Trump won the popular vote by 8 million votes.

This is how lopsided and one-sided the victory was for Trump when you remove the extremes. Literally NY and CA are such extreme Democratic strongholds with high populations that they skew popular vote results. It's not really a clear picture. The US is not one giant homogenous political party people. Politics vary significantly across the US, by party line.

Biden will win. Haha.

When you're talking about who won the debates, the polls "that matter" are the ones asking people who they think won the debates.

Not ones who they think will win the election.

I said it doesn't matter who wins the debates.

All the polls said Clinton won all the debates. Clinton didn't win the election.

Thus proving my point that it doesn't matter who wins the debates.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Biden will win. Haha.

I still think so too.

But Trump has used misused his power as POTUS to try and sway it in his favor, attacking the post office, plans on sending goons to voting stations, consistently saying he's being cheated, so he can definitely steal the election.

Don't be surprised if on 11/03 Trump claims victory before all the votes are counted and then tries to label the uncounted mail-in votes as fraudulent.

Originally posted by Robtard
I still think so too.

But Trump has used misused his power as POTUS to try and sway it in his favor, attacking the post office, plans on sending goons to voting stations, consistently saying he's being cheated, so he can definitely steal the election.

Don't be surprised if on 11/03 Trump claims victory before all the votes are counted and then tries to label the uncounted mail-in votes as fraudulent.

I'm definitely sure that Trump will use all possible vote interference tactics on Election Day. The question is whether the country will abide by it.

Don't be surprised if on 11/03 Trump claims victory before all the votes are counted and then tries to label the uncounted mail-in votes as fraudulent.

This is going to be one of our worst presidential elections ever with the mishmosh of mail in votes and how each state handles their process of collecting and counting

Originally posted by snowdragon
This is going to be one of our worst presidential elections ever with the mishmosh of mail in votes and how each state handles their process of collecting and counting

So basically when Trump declares a dictatorship, you're going to say mail-in voting issues somehow justify it? Okay. I'm glad you're getting your excuses ready, because when liberals start attacking Trump Supporters, their excuses be will be ready too 😉